Re: Hm?

Considering you've probably not seen any, and even if you had there's no way you could see it all, you really have no grounds on which to contradict my statement that your description is not all-encompassing. Saying they aren't enjoying it is my opinion, I never said it as fact, therefore I don't have to prove it.

On the other hand, you can't expect anyone to take your opinion seriously, considering that you have no reason to hold your opinion. According to one FBI expert on child pornography, the children often seem to be laughing and enjoying themselves. His opinion holds more weight than yours, in my book. (Not saying that there is never abuse, of course. There may well be. How can we know?)

Considering the risks associated with money changing hands (that it does at all proves this is an incentive to people) obviously the people who are doing so successfully (and for larger amounts) are going to be the most secretive, professional, and non-publicized by their very nature. If this is going to turn into some pathetic "you can't prove it therefore it is pointless to theorize about it" argument then I don't see the point continuing to talk.

As I was walking up the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish, I wish he'd stay away. - Hughes Mearns

I had a friend who once told me he considered this the most frightening poem in the English language. I think he was correct.

I just read what this was in reply to and wasn't even able to understand my own writing,

There's a lot of that going on. Perhaps a little more self-editing is in order. I'm not trying to prevent you from making your arguments - I'd just prefer your arguments made sense.

Speaking of which, maybe it's time you laid off for a while. Your posting is starting to look like trolling, and I don't really think that's your intent.

In any case, I agree - and most of us here agree - that in contemporary Anglosphere culture it is not a good idea to produce kp, or even to have intimate relationships with children, though not because it is inherently bad. Rather, because the culture is poisonous to such relationships.

Basically, if it was all peaches and cream as your flowery generalization had implied, then some cop would've had the gonads to bring up "hey guys I can't find anything here where they look like they're having a bad time..."

Actually, a few have. Not in so many words, of course, but there have been a few indications from cops that no one really buys that "horrible abuse" bullshit - at least, not for the majority of kp.

As an example, from the excellent web site Inquisition 21:

Consider the judge who excuses himself so that he may study child porn images in his private chambers. Consider the police and prosecutors who collect child porn images and complain over the media about their distress and 'burn out', and then we read (April 2005) that several hundred men and women police officers have been caught exchanging pornographic emails to ribald laughter - enjoying it hugely.

It is not legal for kids to have sex. Therefore, there is already a criminal atmosphere, thus, in that scenario, it is more likely to be abusive or forced/coerced

Yup. There's a solution to that. . . .