GirlChat #449896


PING: Everyone.

Posted by CaptainOfDarkness on 2008-August-22 13:54:39 EDT, Friday

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I doubt any of you missed my unrelenting rants, but I lost my internet connectivity for an entire week, and there were some posts that I wanted to respond to. I decided it would be more likely that my responses would be seen if I created my own thread, at least given that some topics have already gone into the archive. If yours was a newer post, I will probably respond to it directly, so check far down the index page.

The people I am replying to are azure, Sancho Panza, ShadowDweller, Davis, and Kero-chan in that order. I wouldnÂ’t blame you for just skipping to your response and bypassing the rest.

Alright, here goesÂ…



In response to:
azure:⛓️‍💥[Removed]

Ha, okay well I appreciate the sentiment there Captain, but you've hit the wrong nail on the wrong head.

Lol, alright. You were not very descriptive about what you were going through in the initial post, so I guess I decided to use the information vacuum as an opportunity to project my own past experiences onto you. I hope that this bit of advice helped someone out there. At least that would mean I wasnÂ’t completely wasting my breath.



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Sancho Panza:⛓️‍💥[Removed]

Haha, first off, thank you for the dedication. I donÂ’t see a lot of dedications here, so it was nice to get one (even if it was in jest), especially since I am a relatively new member. ;-)

I was very happy to read all of your GMs, although I am sure you held out a little bit. You had two weeks!

I love A.'s breakfasts, but agree you need to have an appetite for charcoal like toast and still liquid boiled eggs..

This was my favorite part of your post, mostly because if I were given the same circumstances, I know that I would absolutely live for “charcoal like toast and still liquid boiled eggs”. When it’s made by your LGF, I am sure it tastes good no matter what. I tend to make pretty good breakfasts for myself, but I would trade for your situation without giving it any thought.

I let her [climb into my bed] and soon we fell asleep. After a few hours i woke up with A. still beside me. Suddenly i got completely panicked about this situation and carefully put her into her own bed. Next morning i told her i did this because i am not comfortable with two persons in one bed. A lie of course but i couldn't think of anything better.

This is a type of situation I hate. You want her to sleep in your bed. She wants to sleep in your bed. That should be enough. I hate that society is so judgmental that we must fear doing anything even slightly suspicious. I would say that in the future you might try to tell her the truth, that even though you wouldnÂ’t mind it, society doesnÂ’t permit such things. That way, you could spare here feelings a bit. As it happened, she might be confused or hurt and she is probably getting mixed signals from you. ThatÂ’s always frustrating for young children.

Almost forgot, GM for A. also: finally there are (very) little budding boobies :-)

Haha, that is indeed big news, but I don’t know whether I would say, “finally” to that bit of information. I think I would be more disappointed than anything. Once girls go into puberty, they begin to leave my primary AoA; although, I know from past experience that I continue to be physically attracted to girls that I care for, even after they start to grow into adults. I think that this is partially because I am not exclusively a pedophile (I am attracted to a select few young women, and they usually have to have child-like attributes), and partially because of the whole “love is blind” mentality. If you are in love with a girl, she becomes beautiful to you no matter what. It is more the idea of the girl that you find sexually arousing than her current physical form.

Thanks again for sharing, only in my wildest dreams can I hope that I will get to experience something as amazing as this.



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ShadowDweller:

Pretty much all of your posts

I have suggested dropping my daughter off there for a few hours...at least that way I could ensure she gets this package I have been holding for her...

When my daughter gives it to her, and when Emma questions the gift (which she will question, because my daughter will prompt the question if it is not asked!!), the simple answer will be: For the same reason you lied to your father about going to the cottage with my dad.

I donÂ’t think you ever mentioned that you had already gone through with this plan, but assuming you havenÂ’t, I would seriously recommend against it. Firstly, if EmmaÂ’s father is suspicious of your daughterÂ’s motives, he may grill Emma after their meeting. While she lied to him before in a more passive manner, she might not be able to lie to him about getting the gift. ItÂ’s hard to lie to a parent, especially when you know they are really serious about a subject and they ask you directly. Hell, I am in my early twenties, and I still canÂ’t lie to my parents in those situations. Not to mention that he has probably been drilling into her on how inappropriate your relationship is ever since the moment he found out about your plans at the cottage.

If he finds out about you giving her a gift, it might tip him over the edge and put an end to his seemingly silent disapproval of your actions. If he starts spreading word that you are trying to make advances toward his young daughter, it could make things really uncomfortable, really quickly. As Kero said, it could end in you losing all of the LGs you love, including your daughters. I would tread carefully, my friend. I donÂ’t want to see you ruining your life over this.

As far as the incident goes with Penelope and wrestling in bed, I have to say that I agree with Kero. I was in shock that you would actually do/say something so reckless. It seems almost self-destructive to me, and I hope you know that if you get outed, things will be unimaginably bad. I know that it seems at times like it might be better to just let the world know the truth about you, but any fanciful notions about society accepting you are just that, fancy. At least, that is the case in our current social order.

Please, take KeroÂ’s advice. He has been in this community for a very long time and he has as much wisdom on the subject as anyone here. You are too close to whatÂ’s happening, and you canÂ’t see the truth of it. Whenever he writes a post like this to you, it seems that you acknowledge what he says, but simply choose to ignore his advice. It is clear to me that he cares very much about you and what you are going through. He is not exactly the wordiest poster here (haha, heÂ’s not me), but that has not stopped him from giving you many in depth posts about what he thinks you should do. Even after you continue to dig yourself in deeper and deeper, he is still here begging you to stop. I am begging you as well.

As I said in an earlier post, you are the person on this board that most led to my decision to become an active member. I felt for you and your situation with Emma. At that point, all I wanted to do was comfort you and tell you that everything would be okay. Now, the time for comfort has ended, and the time for intervention has begun.

You are in a bad place in your life, and you need to take active steps to get out of it. It is going to hurt badly. I donÂ’t think there is anything any of us can do to lessen that pain. I strongly encourage you to cut yourself off completely from Emma. No last words, no final goodbyes, nothing. That ship sailed the day her father figured out about your plans for the cottage. You took a big gamble in that course of action, and you knew that when you were doing it. Unfortunately, you lost everything with that gamble. You need to let her go, for your sake, for hers, and for your daughtersÂ’. Do it for your daughters most of all, because while you can sit there and throw your own life away over these delusions, you canÂ’t afford to throw away the lives of your daughters. You need to protect them from the evil people out there, the antis and vigilantes as well as the unaccepting and judgmental people that fill our society.

I am sorry that I canÂ’t offer you the consolation and affirmation you are seeking here, and I hope that this harsh response isnÂ’t turning you off of the community. You really are a valued member here, and the only reason we criticize your actions is because we care about you.

Please, Shadow, just do the right thing. I think you have it in you, and you know in your heart of hearts what you must do. I know you have the strength to do it, and I promise that IÂ’ll remain here every step of the way to offer words of encouragement. ItÂ’s good that you have found a project to pour yourself into, and I hope that helps you to get through this hard time. Haha, I sincerely hope that this is a completely Emma-free project.

At least I can get this out here and it makes me feel a little better. Sorry for the continued annoyance.

You are not annoying anybody here. If someone doesnÂ’t want to read your posts, they can simply not click on them. You have concern from me, and camaraderie, but definitely not annoyance.

I hope to get some updates on how you are proactively trying to deal with these issues. Good luck, my friend.



In response to:
Davis:⛓️‍💥[Removed]

In the month that I have been posting here, the person who has most gained my respect is Kero. As a moderator here, he does much more than make sure we follow the seven rules. He is always giving advice and looking out for the safety of the members, moderating our lives in a way. He doesnÂ’t hesitate to say the things that need to be said, the things that most people are unwilling to say. In reading his responses to others, I have felt stinging tears swell in my eyes after being forced to see the truth of things I donÂ’t want to see. He and the other Mods certainly do much more for the movement than the rest of us casual posters, and I think they should be recognized for it.



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Kero Chan:⛓️‍💥[Removed]

A perfect example of why I pretty much retired my Kero nic. Do you really think you need to say these things to a Girl Lover? Â…

Â… These topics have been rehashed so many times on GC I'm pretty much burnt out on it. I've been here since around 2001, and there is no topic that hasn't been discussed hundreds of times. There's really nothing new left for me to say. In fact, I wouldn't even still be around if it wasn't for a good friend asking me to stick around and moderate more after he had to leave.


I understand that you were annoyed when you wrote this post, but I was still a little concerned. You are entitled to your own opinion, and in this case I definitely agreed with you over Trucker. My issue is that this post should have come from Kero the poster not Kero Chan the Moderator. In truth, I donÂ’t think it was a necessary comment at all. Not only are you needlessly lashing out here, it seems youÂ’re discouraging the furthering of the intellectual discourse on GC. This makes new posters fear that they will bringing up a trite argument when posting, in addition to openly stating that we have made as much progress on all GL topics as can be made. I donÂ’t think any intellectual topic has been discussed to the point where nothing new can be said about it, on the contrary, I think the point of this community is to discuss these topics, however worked-over they may be, in order to refine our philosophy and develop new insights. Also, living in a constantly evolving society with new and unique events, it is impossible that you have already discussed all the topics that are unique to current existence.

As far as you leaving, I am very glad you didnÂ’t. If you read the post directly preceding this one, you will see that I have great respect for you, and this incident in no way diminishes that respect. You are a great asset to this community, and you would greatly be missed if you left. I understand that you are human, and are thusly vulnerable to the full spectrum of emotions, but as a moderator you should try to rise above such outbursts.

Thank you for all the positive things you give to our community, and I hope that you stick around for a very long time.



I am sure that there were posts in this last week that I didnÂ’t get to that were worth commenting on. I simply donÂ’t have the time to go back and read and respond to all of the really good topics that were brought up over this last week. Hopefully I didnÂ’t offend anyone, although, I am betting that most people are probably happy that I stopped where I did.

I am very glad to have my internet back.

~The Captain~


CaptainOfDarkness


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