Yes

lol. I'll answer this first then go back.
I'd say, yes, those things are definitely "wrong". By even the most open-minded of posters here, I think you'd get the same response. Sex with unconsenting *anybodys* is just plain meaningless before you even get to the dreary moral side of it (I guess one could get into "how drunk is too drunk?" here but I'm assuming you're meaning "so drunk they say yes" - I didn't see the post you mention). And hanging outside playgrounds ... yes it's cliché ... and though I hate to say it, that just plain *is* "creepy", as They say. There are better places and environments in which to see little girls. If nothing else, in both these circumstances - you're just plain more likely to get into trouble, because it's where They look for us. So if nothing else, it's just plain stupid, lol.

But I guess I should add, to each their own. Maybe if someone's a parent and are at the school anyway or something, it'd be easier, or maybe they just enjoy trouble. There's nothing wrong with it per se, but there are a lot of things regarding contact between adults and children I'd like to see made easier before campaigning to make it ok for single men to gaze longingly over the playground fence at 8-year-olds :-D And in the case of the drunk 14-year-olds ... you did say "to *want* to" - and merely *wanting* to do something is almost certainly never a crime, we really can never help what we desire, only what we *do*.

As to your first question - it's simple. There is a wide spectrum and degree to which girl love, pedophilia, can be expressed, and this board in its shining wondrousness attracts the whole range. In most cases nobody really judges people for where they stand on contact/no-contact and other issues, because in general, that really doesn't make a difference to "Them" and we're all adrift from society in the same boat in the end ... but the board does have rules as to what you can mention. You can say you would *like* to get physical with a child "some day" (I think) - but you can't say you did so last night or plan to this afternoon. Just as most people here would acknowledge that though we *have* these feelings for little girls we needn't *act* on those feelings; so too, just because you're feeling or did something naughty, you perhaps shouldn't always *post* about it. If you're at the slightly 'naughtier' end of the GL spectrum, it would be wise to always check your posts against the rules before submitting it to posterity. As to "how far is too far?" ... I would say it depends on the girl. There's no magic formula that makes something that's okay for one child okay for every child; just in fact as there's no such formula that makes that same something okay for every "consenting" *adult* ... much though society thinks there is (it goes a little something like this ... "18 = you're on your own now, sweetie").