Re: Some Comments

Hi Dissident, yes I agree that I probably came off a bit harsh, I have been told elsewhere that I tend to be a bit inflexible with my moral reasoning. I am not trying to make any type of sob story excuse but sometimes I feel a bit sour over these types of issues and I guess I can sometimes make comments that are a bit crabby, but like I said that is no excuse. I have felt the very temptations you have described in your post and my "moral code" is one of the mechanisms that I have used to keep me from getting into trouble. By stressing the morality of abstinence due to the potential harm (from society not me or any other consciencious MAA) a relationship with an AG could cause her, I have been able to avoid getting myself into trouble (sometimes I go overboard and beat up on myself though and that's not a good thing to do). That appraoch will not work for everyone but still I believe that the potential harm to AGs and to an MAA's dependants caused by the legal ramifications of an MAA/AG relationship should always be at the forefront of an MAA's mind when facing temptation...and to disregard these things is immoral conduct in my opinion.

JUDGING PEOPLE VS BEHAVIOR

Please understand that my comments were directed towards behavior and were not meant to judgmental towards individuals. I believe that people should not make judgment calls about whether or not someone is a selfish or immoral person because you do not know the life that they have lived and how you would behave if you had lived thier life...but judging behavior and holding people accountable for thier behavior is a different story.

The reason why I made the the comments about "selfish" and "immoral" were because entering a relationship with a minor where you could go to jail puts you're dependants (if you have any) at risk and even if you have no dependants it could put your Girlfriend at risk for the reasons mentioned in the previous post...so my opinion is that yes if you enter into a relationship without taking these factors into consideration you are engaging in immoral conduct...but that does not mean that you are an immoral person, it means that you are a human being who has committed an immoral act. I also believe that it is very wrong for an Adolescent Girl to lie about her age to go out with an older man...this can put her Boyfriend at serious risk as some jurisdictions do not allow for the Defence of Reasonable Mistake of Age against Statutory "Rape" charges. Don't get me wrong there can be some actions that are so noble that you're dependants/lovers may want you to put them at risk while you engage in them...sheltering a member of a group undergoing violent persecution for example...but puting people needlessly at risk over a dating relationship (and not to downplay the importance of dating relationships) is not something that I will condone.

QUOTE: "But I must consider this scenario...if an amazing 14 year old girl that I knew very well came up to me in private and told me, "I love you very much and I want you to make love to me...I promise I will never tell a soul and I think you are worth every risk,"

We'll that scenario actually brings up a good point...what if you have no dependants and the Girl in question fully understands the potential consequences of the act and is willing to risk them. This is going to sound dumb but to be honest I was really not thinking about this type of scenario when I made my comments regarding morality...I was thinking more on the lines of someone saying "yes I will risk a jail sentence to be with Sarah" without thinking of the harmful effects this could have on "Sarah" or thier dependants who may be deprived of a source of income when He is in jail for making love to "Sarah". In the scenario you describe yes I will concede that no one would be doing anything wrong if they were to act it out, but it seems that you and I both agree that it would still be a rather inadvisable thing to do.

QUOTE: "As I said before, love doesn't always encourage us to make the best decisions...look at all the bad decisions parents often make for their kids out of love"

Interesting view, my theory as to why parents often make bad decisions regarding thier kids is because parents are often caught between a conflict of interest between thier duty to raise their children to become independent adults...and thier more self serving desire to live vicariously through their children. IMHO a decision made by a parent that is motivated by a desire to live vicariously through thier children is not made out of love.

QUOTE: "Hi, StarRanger...I liked your post, as usual, though I do have one disagreement that I wanted to mention. I tried making a post before, but something went wrong with my computer and it didn't go through. So I'm making you a shorter one now."

Thanks for the comments I enjoy your posts as well and it is unfortunate that you had computer trouble the same thing has happened to me a few times.

On a final note I will say that the greatest immorality on display in all of this is that love and sex are being declared illegal based on age difference (okay that was cheesy but I just could not think of any other way of putting it).