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Stockholm or Stalingrad?
Posted by Hen-Wen on 2008-September-27 00:39:59 EDT, Saturday
In reply to Re: Intellectual dishonesty? posted by Goethe on 2008-September-26 11:55:34 EDT, Friday
What about AOC laws? They have about the highest AOC's in the entire fuckin WORLD! Scandinavia is the worst communist shithole on the planet. Half of your wages are TAXED.It's a HELLHOLE of a place! Even fuckin ABBA comes from there!, the fuckin homofucks. Scandinavia went to puss after the Vikings. Now its a fuckin anti-ped pc feminist FUCK HOLE."
All of that may be true; however, they're hardly Hitler or Stalin, which was my actual point. If you want to bash socialism, bash Scandinavia as you've done here. That's intellectually honest. Using socialism as a whipping boy for fascism is not. (Incidentally, the average combined federal/state/municipal income tax in the USA is 40%, so you can't say that they're out of line with international norms. But of course, that goes towards worthwhile things like investment banks and killing Iraqis, not commie pinko plots like socialized medicine).
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Incidentally, I agree with some of Scandinavian countries' policies, and not with others. I think they do a lot right, and a lot wrong. I never said I supported it -- just that socialism has more to do with Stockholm than Stalingrad, if you take my meaning.
"In Scandaenavia lights on cars have to be on 24/7 while they are being driven"
This affects your fundamental freedoms... how? There's nothing wrong with regulation that has a negligible effect on your autonomy and an appreciable effect on yours (and others') safety.
"and you can't even give your kids a slap for behaving like cunts."
Right... and I can't give you a slap for behaving like a cunt. Is this because of the homo feminist conspiracy? I don't think so.
You see, real libertarianism respects the corporeal integrity of each individual, which includes the right not to be interfered with physically beyond what is necessary to ensure one's immediate physical safety (if one is not capable of making a competent choice or is unaware of the danger) and the immediate physical safety of others.
You, on the other hand, are still a collectivist; you just want the collective to be your family unit so you can be the one making the rules.
"Socialist libertarian? LOL. that is about as crazy as saying a "Nazi Jew" or "Al Quaida American Patriot Zionist"."
Nope. There's nothing inconsistent with believing in government noninterference and extreme civil liberties AND believing that people should work together for the greater good and form institutions to help each other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism -- I don't endorse all the ideas in that link, but it gives you the general idea.
(Incidentally, there were plenty of Nazi Jews, there are plenty of anti-ped pedophiles, and frankly I don't see a huge gulf between the ideologies of Zionists, Al Qaeda, and American "Patriots", either.)
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- Re: Stockholm or Stalingrad? - Kalika on 2008-September-27 02:28:36 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Stockholm or Stalingrad? - lgsinmyheart on 2008-September-26 21:49:55 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 6)
- Re: Stockholm or Stalingrad? - Dissident on 2008-September-27 12:05:42 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- And how do you enforce that... - Hen-Wen on 2008-September-27 01:19:20 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: And how do you enforce that... - Dissident on 2008-September-27 08:47:20 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- why it can't work - lgsinmyheart on 2008-September-28 12:09:08 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: why it can't work - Dissident on 2008-September-28 08:17:05 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- another reason: Diet Coke and Mentos - Baldur on 2008-September-28 02:27:01 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- why it can't work - lgsinmyheart on 2008-September-28 12:09:08 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: And how do you enforce that... - Dissident on 2008-September-27 08:47:20 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- And how do you enforce that... - Hen-Wen on 2008-September-27 01:19:20 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Stockholm or Stalingrad? - Dissident on 2008-September-27 12:05:42 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 5)