Re: OK, but one thing . . .

"On the other hand, if they are quaking in fear in your presence and want to leave, I don't believe the collectivist state should force them to go back to you."

I agree as I don't respect or recognise the collective state in the first place, so I simply won't deal or negotiate with them anyway. If my offspring ran away, it would be an issue strictly between me and them, not the state.

I reserve my parental ownership right for extreme and unlikely circumstances. For example, I outright REFUSE to allow them to do things that I personally regard as destructive. I would NOT allow them to associate with my enemies such as antis, feminazis and the like. Now if that makes me a "slave driver" then so be it. The collective like to mold them by THEIR way, whereas I prefer to mold them by MY way.