GirlChat #493998
Second wake-up call in one thread
Posted by Dissident on 2010-March-08 14:23:18 EST, Monday
In reply to Re: Uh, yes it does... posted by Trucker on 2010-March-08 10:32:57 EST, Monday
Dude, I agree that this country has a constitution. The reason people like me and LOD protest so much is because we fully realize that the U.S. is very capable of becoming a police state if not for orgs like the ACLU and other groups of social activists who are deeply concerned that this government stays true to the ideals it is supposed to represent. Are you aware that anyone simply accused of being a terrorist or "enemy combatant" are held indefinitely without due process in special prisons? That they are often subject to waterboarding, sleep deprivation, freezing, and other types of "enhanced interrogation" that are against the Geneva Conventions? That they are tried in military tribunals rather than criminal courts? That they are totally denied habeus corpus, and denied other basic rights as outlined in the Constitution? These rules are supposed to apply to everyone, including people who are arrested by U.S. authorities. The U.S. government is fond of creating separate classes of people to whom the democratic ideals we are supposed to hold dear do not apply to. Sound familiar, dude?
Some SORs like yourself may be lucky enough to get a job after being released from prison, but many others find it near impossible. Are you aware of Lindsay Ashford's situation? Your situation is not as universal as you think.
Instead of praising soldiers you should be praising all the civil rights activists and orgs like the ACLU for fighting hard to keep the U.S. from putting people like us into concentration camps or secret prisons where we would be denied all of our constitutional rights. We have always had to fight to make sure that the U.S. government and legal system honors our democratic rights. It may not be against the law (at least, not yet) to talk about pedophilia and hebephilia, but we are subject to constant censorship and we can be subject to vigilante violence and legal discrimination in many different ways, as well as railroading from the bears. Are you unfamiliar with Trillion's current situation? People like Judith Levine and Susan Clancy nearly got fired from their jobs for speaking openly and honestly about aspects of the sex abuse hysteria that are untrue but popularly believed. Soldiers simply follow the orders of the U.S. government's officials. And this includes orders that go squarely against the principles embodied by the Constitution. In contrast, civil rights activists do not follow the orders of the government and they work towards keeping the government as true as possible to its principles.
IMO, it's not soldiers who are the ultimate patriots, but rather the people who work in orgs like the ACLU.
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- Re: Second wake-up call in one thread - Little Girl Lover on 2010-March-09 08:25:56 EST, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)