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Good sound points, Baldur. But I still say that

Posted by Stahntii on 2010-March-09 10:46:34 EST, Tuesday
In reply to also, what is 'Islamic'? posted by Baldur on 2010-March-09 07:18:31 EST, Tuesday

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our soldiers are responsible for much coldblooded ruthless murder, due to their ignorance of thinking that "duty" is some divine benevolent thing that cancels out a soldier having to think at all (about the murders they engage in). They should know this by the simple fact that we are on their soil killing them. And how dare we feel insulted when any of them fire on us while we're on their soil with guns.

But as for the notion of it being noble that a soldier (any soldier of any time or place) is fighting for his people; this is a false notion. I truly believe that most soldiers (of most times and places) are fighting for a job; a job that's easy most of the time, but then ahas the risk of possibly needing to go to battle. Most people I know join the forces for employment opportunity. In my opinion, the only noble soldier is not a soldier at all; but rather the common man who decides to suit up he sees very clearly (and I don't mean he has been told by military intelligence that he, or his country, is at risk of attack) when sees very clearly "for himself" that a threat is before him (for example - the Chinese have invaded his country, or a robber his home). As for me, I will only fight those who post a direct threat to me and those directly in my life who I love (friends and family). I'm not gonna go out and be some hero for people I don't even know, since I would likely not even know what's what and who's who in some distant battle.

If my leaders or some group of local dreamers came to me and called for my patriotism to emerge and that I should go and die for "my country", I'd tell them to fucking go and die themself if it means so much to them! I have no fucking country. My country is myself and the people who I love (friends and family). If I see clear signs that they are at risk, I will fight the one who I believe the enemy. But not til then. But if there was a distant battle going on and my loved ones saw the need to go and do some fighting somewhere, I "may" just join them. But of course I would still need to see the necessity. And unfortunately a giant government hidden behind the veil of national security or military intel, I can never feel it's possible to trust what those fuckers are telling me. FOr all I know, they could have motives that I would not agree with. And it just nevers feels right to me, invading another country (something the U.S. military is all to famous for doing). We're sneak-attackers who only pretend to care about the lives of innocent civies in the areas we attack.


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