Re Tril and Capt

Hi Captain and Tril thanks for your reply, and I think you have some good points.

There was never a natural way for me to get to know her parents better. I met Joy directly through a group activity that she and I both partake in, but one that her parents do not As of now we will still be able to see each other during this, which is in fact the only time we have always ever seen each other, so surprisingly that has not changed, but it could if her parents become more distrustful of me. That is what I wish I could stop I think I know quite well that if I do nothing it will get worse. I will have to breach the subject with her father next time I see him. I will let you all know how this goes. I, with all of my social sense, predict it will go well, but I will be very nervous. Im just going to try to calm their minds. See if I can get them to voice what was so concerning about this recent invitation I gave their daughter, and resolve that issue alone. I think that by itself may reduce a lot of the tension. Maybe in that conversation I would have the opportunity to encourage them to have open communication with me.

I dont think they need to know I find their daughter attractive. Im not advocating with them or anyone a physical relationship. What Joy and I want is to be friends. Wed love to be able to spend time together. It would remain platonic, so it wouldnt be a romantic relationship in that sense. It would be more of an open friendship where we knew, and acknowledged each others feelings. Having her parents on board may not change that dynamic, it would be the same, but what would be different is that it would reduce the risk of them freaking out at a later time, and also there is chance they would let us see each other more, even if it is monitored time. I guess that is a dreamy scenario?

Maybe Im taking things too seriously right now. I think I may be making myself overly paranoid... There is no crisis yet, there is just an emotional crisis within me. Im going to try to chill out, and enjoy things. And tril you have some very insightful things to say I understand them fully. Joy has actually told me i'm worrying too much. I actually might have bad enough judgment to listen to the 13/yo instead of my dad. She is right for the time being, I need to seriously chill out for now. Not much has changed in the real world. Her parents haven't done anything crazy, and aren't immanently about to at this time.

In other words, Joy's wisdom is that this isn't the time for decisions. It is amazing that her of all people are enlightened enough to make me see this. There is something remarkable with the way we work. Maybe she isn't an adult, but she works with me, and I think this is a good example of that... How someone so young and 'immature' can actually keep me on track more than an adult could.

Thank fellas!
you'll get updates.
And to both of you, and Capt, I will give you e-mails, but I have to get one first. I was having trouble with fastmail's sign up.