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Re: Socialism will just become capitalism again

Posted by lgsinmyheart on 2011-November-07 07:09:15 EST, Monday
In reply to Re: Socialism will just become capitalism again posted by Dissident on 2011-November-07 06:07:24 EST, Monday

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it makes no sense whatsoever in an advanced post-industrial society where it's technologically possible to produce an abundance for all, and where there is no justification for anyone living in poverty or economic insecurity, and where things such as artificial scarcity and planned obsolescence become part of a needless "game" to preserve an archaic status quo.

We agree.
We just see the Postmodern moment going in different directions.

The prevailing evidence throughout the existence of capitalism during the Industrial Era in no way suggests that class-divided systems will eliminate poverty and want amongst the majority of citizens in the world despite any level of advancing technology.

The Industrial Era paradigm is over.
The Western stubbornness in trying to turn the clock back notwithstanding.
(and to be fair, many Easterners and Southerners do it too)
Same as a bourgeois could make 1000 times the money with a 1/1000th times the land that a feudal aristocrat; we are witnessing another moment of upheaval in the relations of capital to production and "old" capital will no longer be as productive.

Further, working class people are being milked dry with increasing amounts of debt due to higher education and health care continuing to be commodities for sale regardless of how much they may be needed by individuals,

Oh no, the banks and the insurers have nothing to with that in your world, I guess... Come on!!
You *do* know that producing higher education or health is cheaper now than it ever was; and that its inflation is a sure sign of a Bubble.

which is in turn courtesy of the advertising industry, one of a few powerful industries in a capitalist society that would have no purpose whatsoever in a classless, resource-based economy.

It's true that advertising doesn't add value to a product or service; but there is something to be said for diffusion of stuff which would otherwise not be known widely. Otoh, even that might (might, I am not yet sure the hype is more than just hype) be changing with social media.

because mass production remains the centerpiece of technological progress that made the Industrial Revolution possible,

I didn't question that, I only questioned its foreverness.

and it is in no way being replaced by some sort of smaller scale production of "similar but different things."

It is. Do you have any idea how many books and music CDs on Amazon are printed on demand? Of course, that's only the biggest seller, on the products easiest to make on demand. But the whole economy is moving there. Unsurprisingly, only agriculture and mining are really not.

That makes as much sense as saying that small family farms are beginning to make a comeback and gradually driving out big agribusiness conglomerates,

That is not really possible. Agriculture is a special field where mass production does have an irreversible advantage.

or that "mom and pop" shops are slowly defeating big corporations like Wal-Mart and Home Depot.

Another strawman. A shop is a service, not a product.





But the fact remains that I wasn't.

Oh well you can still youtube her.




LGsinmyheart


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