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Re: Umm, no
Posted by Markaba on 2011-December-28 09:33:31 EST, Wednesday
In reply to Umm, no posted by qtns2di4 on 2011-December-28 06:18:37 EST, Wednesday
Guess again. I wasn't aware that I thought anyone here was an anti-Semite. Thanks for pointing that out to me! How would I have known what I thought otherwise without your helpful insight?
If Israel is to survive as a Jewish state, it has to respect the rights of the Orthodox Jews to practice as they believe. Doing otherwise threatens the Jewish character of the State of Israel and makes it no different than any other state.
As you well know, I have no respect for organized religion, be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish or anything else (although I do see some religions as inherently better than others, namely Buddhism.) As far as I'm concerned, religions have a right to exist, providing they don't trample on the rights of others. When they do that, all bets are off. Thus, Muslim girls and women have a right to wear their burqas if they want to, but when they're forced to wear it, I have a problem. By the same token, girls have a right to an education if they want it, regardless of what they're belief systems are. If they are excluded by force, then those who force them can fuck off. It might be different if these girls had a choice of where to live, but they don't. They are dragged by their parents wherever. Let them get an education.
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- Re: Umm, no - qtns2di4 on 2011-December-28 19:44:01 EST, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 42)
- The religion? - Aramis on 2011-December-30 03:00:49 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 6)
- Re: The religion? - qtns2di4 on 2011-December-30 06:43:00 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Not really - Aramis on 2012-January-01 00:46:28 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- That's what I argued - qtns2di4 on 2012-January-01 02:46:45 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Yes and no - Aramis on 2012-January-01 13:23:58 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Yes and no - qtns2di4 on 2012-January-01 22:18:30 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Yes and no - Aramis on 2012-January-01 13:23:58 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Not really - Baldur on 2011-December-31 13:35:48 EST, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- That's what I argued - qtns2di4 on 2012-January-01 02:46:45 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Not really - Aramis on 2012-January-01 00:46:28 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: The religion? - qtns2di4 on 2011-December-30 06:43:00 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Religious rights do not trump individual rights - Markaba on 2011-December-28 20:17:01 EST, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 22)
- Re: Religious rights do not trump individual rights - Hieronymus on 2011-December-29 05:07:25 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- False dichotomy - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-29 01:54:07 EST, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Conflation - Markaba on 2011-December-29 03:24:12 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Conflation - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-29 05:21:20 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Conflation - Markaba on 2011-December-29 03:24:12 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Religious Rights ARE Individual Rights - Dante on 2011-December-28 21:00:36 EST, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 17)
- Re: Religious Rights ARE Individual Rights - Markaba on 2011-December-29 12:10:52 EST, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 16)
- Positive to positive, negative to ground. - Dante on 2011-December-29 10:47:54 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 15)
- Re: Positive to positive, negative to ground. - Markaba on 2011-December-30 02:58:09 EST, Friday - (0 / 0 / 14)
- The Balance Sheet as Morality - Dante on 2011-December-30 07:34:50 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 9)
- Re: The Balance Sheet as Morality - Markaba on 2011-December-31 09:20:49 EST, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 7)
- One Clarification - Dante on 2012-January-02 18:03:53 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Okay, thanks for the clarification--NT - Markaba on 2012-January-02 19:45:28 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Mea Maxima Culpa - Dante on 2012-January-02 07:55:29 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Thank you - Markaba on 2012-January-02 08:19:43 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- If this goes any further.... - Dante on 2012-January-02 08:24:28 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Aw, come on, give us a kiss . . . :-) --NT - Markaba on 2012-January-02 08:42:51 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- If this goes any further.... - Dante on 2012-January-02 08:24:28 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Thank you - Markaba on 2012-January-02 08:19:43 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Correction - read this first! - Markaba on 2011-December-31 18:48:07 EST, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- One Clarification - Dante on 2012-January-02 18:03:53 EST, Monday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- And... 'First, Do No Harm - Dante on 2011-December-30 18:06:04 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: The Balance Sheet as Morality - Markaba on 2011-December-31 09:20:49 EST, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 7)
- Re: Positive to positive, negative to ground. - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-30 06:11:51 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- I will call it: - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-30 06:58:59 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- LOL - Dante on 2011-December-30 07:47:06 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- I will call it: - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-30 06:58:59 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- As far as we know - Aramis on 2011-December-30 03:14:04 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- The Balance Sheet as Morality - Dante on 2011-December-30 07:34:50 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 9)
- Re: Positive to positive, negative to ground. - Markaba on 2011-December-30 02:58:09 EST, Friday - (0 / 0 / 14)
- Positive to positive, negative to ground. - Dante on 2011-December-29 10:47:54 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 15)
- Re: Religious Rights ARE Individual Rights - Markaba on 2011-December-29 12:10:52 EST, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 16)
- Re: Umm, no - Markaba on 2011-December-28 20:11:20 EST, Wednesday - (1 / 0 / 11)
- Re: Umm, no - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-29 01:49:14 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 10)
- Sophism - Aramis on 2011-December-30 03:25:59 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Re: Sophism - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-30 05:32:10 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Sophism - Aramis on 2012-January-01 00:41:33 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Re: Sophism - lgsinmyheart on 2012-January-01 02:57:34 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Thanks for the link! - Aramis on 2012-January-01 13:27:37 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Welcome (nt) - lgsinmyheart on 2012-January-01 22:24:59 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Thanks for the link! - Aramis on 2012-January-01 13:27:37 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Sophism - lgsinmyheart on 2012-January-01 02:57:34 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Re: Sophism - Aramis on 2012-January-01 00:41:33 EST, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Re: Sophism - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-30 05:32:10 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Umm, no - Markaba on 2011-December-29 03:36:24 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Re: Umm, no - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-29 05:47:25 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Re: Umm, no - Baldur on 2011-December-29 09:41:41 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Umm, no - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-30 04:18:50 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Umm, no - Baldur on 2011-December-29 09:41:41 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Umm, no - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-29 05:47:25 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Sophism - Aramis on 2011-December-30 03:25:59 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Re: Umm, no - lgsinmyheart on 2011-December-29 01:49:14 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 10)
- The religion? - Aramis on 2011-December-30 03:00:49 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 6)