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Re: Umm, no

Posted by Markaba on 2011-December-28 20:11:20 EST, Wednesday
In reply to Re: Umm, no posted by qtns2di4 on 2011-December-28 19:44:01 EST, Wednesday

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You have accused several of us of that for pointing out the Jewish overrepresentation in banking, media and the legal profession. And for statements that you have interpreted as pro-fascist / pro-Nazi, or pro-Iran.

I have accused certain people of that (who were guilty of it, no less) that are no longer here. Ask yourself when was the last time I leveled this argument and you might see what I mean. And now, I invite you to join the Order of Siam. Just repeat these words aloud until you attain enlightenment: Owa tanah Siam, Owa tanah Siam . . . :)

But Israel was not founded on that! Israel was founded on preserving the Jewish "genetic line" and the Jewish special identity, which is based on the religion - all the more so when you understand the differences between the Jews of different countries and regions pre-1933. It presumes, from the start, a special status for the practice of Judaism. You have all the right to disagree, of course; but not to deny that changing that would threaten the Jewish character of the State of Israel. Which is not a small thing - it is an explicit prerequisite Israel puts to negotiations with Arabs. Do you think it would be a prerequisite if it wasn't important? Do you think Palestinians would reject it if it wasn't important (they reject it, even the most moderate)?

Don't know, don't care. look, I'm not about to claim we should wage war on Isreal, but we have a lot of pull with them and we can certainly exert pressure on them to do the right thing here.

That distracts. They are dragged by the parents, true - but the parents know (or at least should know) where they are moving to. And yet it is the parents who are raising the complaints to media and public opinion. It does absolve the girls, but not the parents.

Whether the parents know what they're getting into or not is beside the point. So is whether or not the parents support the present system. Girls have a right to an education if they want it. Aren't you the moral absolutist and the full youth rights guy? You should be agreeing with me on this.


Markaba


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