i appreciate your response. i noticed in some other of your comments you are still referring to posts that are "thinly veiled erotica" or however you like to word it and that's fine...your point is true, if my stories were made up as i've said...but they are not.

Whether they are real or not is beside the point in one sense. We should avoid going into overly graphic detail when describing real events, or it does come off like we are trying to sneak erotica into a post rather than simply being informative about an event, whether real or imagined. The same happens when puerile street language is used in place of other terms that garner less of a negative emotional jolt in visitors who read it (I am not accusing you in particular of doing this, but others certainly have in the past).

here is the bottom line diss, every word i have ever said has been true...you are wrong...so for the very fact that you mention that my posts are fabrications...(even tho you aren't saying my name let's be real you know your talking about me)

You are not the only person who I believe has done this, not by a long shot. But I have believed you to be a flagrant example of this in the past, as I do not fail to see patterns in certain board members' posting habits.

you are actually lying to people on the board, not me.

I would only have been lying if I either said I was referring only to you when I express those concerns, or if I was never referring to you as one of the examples I was thinking of.

i'm sure you believe what you are saying, so i can't fault you. but stop and think about that for a second....your dropping seeds of mis-trust and and dissension and you don't even know it. well think for just a second what if he is telling the truth?? then you have spent alot of time falsely scaring people who want to share amazing things about their life because in my opinion your life must be so dull that you just can't imagine it being so amazing for another pedophile.

Dude, amazing things happen to everyone from time to time. But with the regularity, and degree of elaborateness, that you have routinely claimed these things happen to you on the board in your GMs and other posts, sometimes on a seemingly weekly basis in the past? I'm sorry, but that strains credulity, because I do live in the real world, I do not live a sheltered existence, and I know that people do not routinely have fantastic things happen to them with such regularity, even if they are a cop in the inner city. That will call suspicion to anyone with a lick of common sense, is all I'm saying. It has nothing to do with jealousy, it has to do with common sense.

other than not being modest enough sometimes when i describe things i am simply sharing my life. so therefore everything in your head and everything you are posting are complete and utter lies.

They would only constitute bona fide lies if I didn't truly believe them when I say them.

the truth that you believe, is false, whether you like it or not...therefore you are making points and stirring up conversation on false pretenses.

I am simply calling it like I see it, bro.

thinking you have this all figured out has lead you to make false accusations. again, diss...everything you are basing your argument on is a lie...not my lie, the lie you have made up in your head.

Again, they could only be actual lies if I didn't believe the patterns I point out.

i think that you feel this righteous indignation and are standing on some moral soap box because i am open about my strong sexual feelings toward girls....so maybe at times you feel i'm disrespectful in my speech when it comes to lg's, i might agree with you there,

Dude, most genuine MAPs/MAAs have "strong" sexual feelings for girls, but they also typically have equally strong emotional, social, and aesthetic feelings too. The fact that you settle so much on describing the sexual feelings in such lavish detail while often relegating the other components to the background on a board that is devoted to all aspects of Girl Love, rather than an emphasis on Girl Lust alone, has set off alarm bells in my head, and I can only imagine what the fence-sitting Nons think when they see such statements from you (and please note that I am not talking about the hard core antis here, whom I have agreed numerous times in the past are incorrigible and are never going to think otherwise about us; but they do not constitute the sum total of all Nons who visit this board). This is not sitting on a moral soap box, but rather making it clear that the sexual component of our attraction base is not the only component by a long shot, nor is it typically the strongest of all the components, and when a certain poster acts as if their sexual feelings are disproportionately "strong" (using your word) over and above that of the other components, then I think it makes complete sense to wonder if this person is getting a thrill out of sharing erotic tales, regardless of whether they are real, complete fabrications, or simple exaggerations of real events, rather than simply sharing "happy" events in their lives; it's not an attempt to share happiness in such a case but to entertain, titillate, and promote drama. There are plenty of posters on any conceivable type of social network or discussion board (and GC can certainly be considered both) who are infamous for getting enjoyment out of role-playing fully or partially fabricated storylines, lifestyles, and types of incidents that are supposedly ongoing, frequent events in their lives.

and btw...you didn't answer me...you do want to have sex with little girls right? like if it were legal to do so...in a "perfect world" you would participate in sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl right?

I did actually answer this question. But I will answer it again in detail, as I am not ashamed to do so, contrary to what you seem to be implying.

No, I would not have sexual intercourse with prepubescent girls, because I am a hebephile, not a pedophile, meaning my preference is not for pre-pubescent girls but young adolescent girls, i.e., tweens and young teens.

Would I have sexual intercourse with AGs if I was legally allowed to date them, and they had their full civil rights, including access to adequate education and support sources for dealing with their sexuality? That is a very loaded question, because you ask it in such a way as to suggest that would be foremost on my mind, almost as if you are projecting. And I told you before that I would actually prefer to limit sexual encounters with AGs to making out and petting, rather than full-blown sexual intercourse. I believe there are good reasons (not related to morality, but rather to practicality) to avoid full intercourse with AGs on a regular basis, as they tend to move slower in regards to sexual activity than adult women, and since my sexual desires are pretty much on the level of a young adolescent girl, I also prefer to move at that slower pace. Sexual intercourse would not be entirely out of the question if I met an AG (in that hypothetical world where it was legal and they had full citizenship, that is) who was particularly experienced in that area, and enjoyed it to a great extent, and had strong expectations of it with any guy she was dating, but I would not pursue full blown intercourse on a regular basis with young AGs, and never with LGs, if such was legal.

Also, I will point out here that the right to mutually consensual sexual activity is not the main or highest desire on what I would want if I could date AGs, and you seem to be emphasizing this particular aspect of intergenerational romance/interaction again, as if trying to define attraction to girls as being mostly sexual. I would love to spend a large amount of time going out on actual dates, e.g., roller blading, hanging out at skating rinks, out to the movies, out to lunch, parties, horseback riding, hanging out with groups of our friends, strolling through the park hand-in-hand while enjoying a nice summer day together, and just socializing with many AGs whom I greatly liked or loved as people but had no romantic interest in. I consider all of that, i.e., the ability to be part of their social world in general, every bit as important as sexual activity, and certainly much more important than specifically sexual intercourse.

so let's not forget that diss...by your definition we are both gler's...so stop thinking your a better girl love than me....who are you to judge?......you are just a sick pedophile to EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON EARTH....except for guys like me.

I am not quick to judge, but sorry, dude, I do think there should be standards of ethics in our hypothetical and actual interactions with girls (sexual or otherwise), and mutual respect must be part of those interactions. I do not lesson my standards or ethical behavior simply because society expects no such ethics from me. If I did that, then society would be right about people like me, but they aren't.

again, i'm comfortable with you thinking i'm lying...i believe it's that exact pessimism that you will lead you to never having the things i have....a life i love, a life filled with GM's(although it has been a month and a half since i have spent any time with a girl at all) a gf who is also attracted to lg's and baby on the way. possibly a daughter....and i think that just kills you doesn't it?

And if you want to think I am that petty and vindictive of a person that I would try to rain on your happiness parade simply out of bitterness over the fact that I thought I couldn't have the same, then I am comfortable with that, as I do not consider you a friend, just a fellow board member whom I share a cyberspace domain with, and do not care what you think of me; moreover, I know that my large number of actual friends in this community know me much better than that, and know I wouldn't blow steam out of my ass or make judgment calls solely for the purpose of hurting another poster whom I was envious of. Only I can change my opinion of myself in their eyes, not anything that you ever said, so you are free to counter my concerns about you with negative speculations about why I may be doing so to your heart's desire. If all of what you say is true, then more power to you, I am glad you are happy, but I still caution you to keep that in perspective.

jealousy is a hard pill to swallow. much easier to mask it with disbelief.

Note that I have never felt the need to lie in order to bolster my standing in this community, nor have I ever torn down the genuine happiness of another due to jealous resentment. Everything about me has been consistent since I started posting here 11 years ago, and if I was the duplicitous individual you claim, I think it stands to reason my reputation around here would be similar to the one you seem to have.

have you never held a lg in your arms?? have you never smelled her and kissed her cheeks or ran your fingers through her hair? have you never felt your body pressed against hers while you cuddle her to sleep? have you never had a day filled with nothing but the company of lg's? wrestling, board games, drawing, dancing???

I prefer to be more cautious with my dealings with AGs in real life, because as everyone here is well aware, I am out as a hebephile, so no I do not take foolish chances of cuddling with AGs, having them sit on my lap, dancing with them, or falling asleep with them in my arms with my body pressed against them, thus making me a "sitting duck" for future accusations and allegations. I gladly made that sacrifice as an activist, and I do not wish I had chosen differently so that I could "live the life" and brag about it to everyone in the community in as much salacious detail as I can get away with. I wish I could do everything you mention up above, but I would never take the chance of doing it in today's environment, and when I see you describe these things, my reaction is not due to jealousy, but rather great concern, not only for you, but for this board. You mistake this concern for jealousy.

I have too rarely seen you discuss deriving enjoyment out of just seeing girls be themselves, or the creative things they regularly do or say, etc., and again, that sets alarm bells off to me as to what your priorities are in your interactions with girls and your sharing of it with people on this forum, because I routinely see my fellow MAPs on this board admire these aspects of girls as well as their physical beauty, or physical contact with them, but I have no strong recollections of you ever doing so to a similar degree. In all fairness to you, I will keep an eye open for other types of posts from you where you appreciate the non-sexual aspects of girls.

if not i feel sorry for you and maybe it's because you don't believe it can happen....remember...whether you think you can or you think you can't....either way...your right!!!

I would not be foolish enough to TRY to make it happen in a world with these types of laws, especially since I am OUT as a hebephile in real life. I know it could happen, and that is the type of world I am fighting to create, for future generations of MAPs and youths if not for my generation.