Markie, your cynicism and pessimism knows few bounds. You tend to envision the worst outcomes in everything, and on this board, you apply that frayed outlook to everything positive about this community, trying to turn everything from our move for emancipation, to our move to empower younger people so they are judged by their individual merits rather than any arbitrary factors alone, as very likely having a negative outcome. You see rampant negative traits in all of us, from our feelings to our motives for just about everything, and moreover, you hold your very species in very low regards. You complain about the status quo as much as the rest of us, granted, but you are as quick to defend it as the "better" alternative to anything we propose to put in its place. You see that as being "cautious" rather than socially sycophantic.

Your opinion of your own place in the world is made clear with your unbridled cynicism and massive mistrust for your fellow human beings, focusing on all the bad aspects of human nature, and how likely we are to mess up whenever given the chance, rather than rising up and shining. Evidence to the contrary doesn't sway you, because your cynicism is more an emotional issue connected to your upbringing in today's society than it is based on anything akin to empirical observations of the world and detailed studies of empirical facts. And if you did indeed read some research that showed a positive outcome for your community; you would jump to claim that the person who conducted the research had some type of sinister agenda, or how we and all the truly evil people in the world would rush in to mess up the world; and all the children in at, on the first day our society develops a more freedom-oriented society.

You consider this as "being realistic," and "asking the important questions most of the rest of the 'biased' people in this community do not want to ask," but in actuality, it's nothing but flagrant mistrust and dislike for your fellow human beings, coupled with massive overcompensation for the "safety" of children whom you project your strong need for someone to protect from all the evils you see around you, including that which you perceive in yourself.

Was that an in-depth psychological analysis of you I just did? No, not at all, it was a simple common sense observation of your posting patterns, especially during weeks when your emotional problems are staining your outlook on the world like a spilled container of paint stains the rug it pours over.

You'd no doubt have pedos and hebes coming out of the woodwork hitting on them, probably more than a few harassing them. There would be tons of media scrutiny, a lot of it no doubt negative. What else do you think would change in their lives, good and bad? Let's try to be honest and objective about this. I think we need to cover all the angles here.

Honest and objective? You aren't doing that at all, you are being cynical and mistrustful, as always. You have a repugnantly low degree of confidence in our own community, which is hideously insulting. You act, as always, as the majority of us have no conscience, no sense of concern for kids, as if in contrast you some sort of self-appointed champion of children's safety, and the last bastion of true concern for them in this community. You are so overly concerned about a bad outcome that you ignore the multitude of discussions in the community about minimizing the possible negative effects, and instead focus on your massive distrust for us.

I am being honest and objective by telling you that you are not honest and objective, but full of paranoia, mistrust, and outright disdain for fellow human beings (at least if they are male). You don't even provide evidence to support your statements, but only cite "human nature" as your reason for being so paranoid. Congrats, Markie, you have now found a reason to repudiate support for Epstein's reasonable, and even semi-conservative, goals to base emancipation of young people on individual ability and merit. By next week, when your next emotional breakdown is looming, I am sure you will then come to the conclusion that Epstein is "obviously" an evil man who has no concern for children at all, and is hoping to see them thrown to the wolves. All of his research, no matter how well peer reviewed, or methodologically stringent, or reproducible, that may contradict your negative assessment of youths will be considered suspect by you, because Epstein is, after all, human, and we know how bad that species is (thank the gods he isn't a MAP, otherwise you would consider him particularly selfish for wanting to emancipate younger people). You will then accuse those who disagree with your dark worldview as "obviously" having selfish motives, after which you will break into a self-righteous, whiny tirade of how that is an example of "disturbing" tendencies you see filling every cyber-nook-and-cranny of this board and its community, and how you are practically the only objective person around here.

I think at first you'd see a lot of teens trying (with maybe 50% or so of those passing the tests), and maybe a few preteens taking the test, with even fewer of them passing. The first generation of test takers might produce only a handful of preteens who were able to pass the tests for full emancipation.

Geez, either you think that test will be so extraordinarily difficult that not even most adults could pass them, or you think kids are typically so incompetent that we can count on 50% of them to fail it. Sometimes I wonder if you believe (against any available evidence) that 6-year-olds are not cognitively developed enough to learn to read, and that anyone who thinks otherwise have "obviously never been around kids."

Now some personal questions for you.

Translation: Let's see how many people in my esteemed community I can get to provide ample evidence of my theory that the great majority of them are not responsible, and are motivated by selfish intentions but are in total denial of the fact.

Would you go out of your way to hook up with one of these rare girls.

Rare girls? Ever the hopeful one, eh, Markie? If the majority were able to pass those tests, that would invalidate your precious opinion about youth incompetence that motivates your drive to "protect" kids from the rampant evils lurking in the minds of a huge percentage of the human race, which is really a projection on your part of your own inner guilt and doubts about yourself.

Would you go out of your way to hook up with one of these rare girls (or boys if you're also a BLer), even knowing you are up against all kinds of competition? If so, to what degree would you pursue a relationship with this child? What do you think your chances would be? Would you consider buying the child's affections?

Classic trap questions. You love creating loaded questions based on personal assumptions of yours to "trick" everyone who responds into providing you with "evidence" that this is one awful community you live in, and that society really needs to keep kids behind locked doors. You know they aren't actually safe there, since the great majority of genuine abuse comes from parents and other adults who have the greatest degree of power over kids, but that's beside the point as far as you're concerned, since your mission is to protect kids from people like us, not those who most often exploit the legal power granted to adults over that of kids. Or the nature of the legal power itself, of course.

Note: This may be your only shot at ever having such a relationship. The first gen of successful test takers are bound to be few and far between.

Keep on trying, Markie, and you may just get a good number of people on this board who are too stupid to fall for your bait. And it's unfortch that no one really did, because now you can't feel better about yourself after seeing all the awful people around here. You have proved something alright, even if it wasn't what you sought out to "prove."

And the first gen of test takers are bound to be "few and far between"? Again, Markie, you are not a man without hope. Your hopes just go in some very skewed directions with very negative assumptions.

And before you break into a whining, drama-queenish diatribe about how you are going to leave the board, and throwing all sorts of insults at your community, and how you are one of the few around here who sees the dark and awful truth about us and the "sad" truth about kids, please consider how old that is getting. And before you shout at me as to how pissed my words made your fragile little self, keep in mind that you are probably not nearly as pissed as I am now, so pardon my frank assessment of this disturbing posting pattern of yours.