GirlChat #555320
Re: My goodness
Posted by qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 03:48:07 EDT, Tuesday
In reply to Re: My goodness posted by GL_in_lyrics on 2012-May-21 23:44:01 EDT, Monday
Even if the free world nations are now less violent - that hardly needs to be contributed to feminism
The USA has more violent crime than all the other rich countries; yet it would be a lie to say it has less women rights. Britain (and the rest of Anglo countries) has more violent crime than the Western European countries, and same applies. The Western rich countries as a whole (except Scandinavia, but Scandinavia then has way higher suicide rates) have more violent crime than the rich East Asian countries (Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore), and nobody would argue that rich East Asian countries have more women rights than the West. The only place in the world where a correlation between more women rights / less violent crime really sustains is in Scandinavia.
It does get even worse when you add in middle income and poor countries. Eastern Europe (including the former USSR countries) has high women rights, and high violent crime rates. Latin America has high-ish women rights, and very high violent crime rates. The Middle East, South Asia, and poor East Asia all have low-ish women rights and all have low violent crime rates. The only region where it does seem to work the same correlation as Scandinavia is Sub-Saharan Africa, where low women rights coexist with high violent crime rates. Overall, the picture is that it's not significant either way how much women rights there are, to explain violent crime. That said, there probably are cultural variables to explain violent crime, as it sustains high or low across all the large cultural regions, but it just doesn't seem that women rights are one of them.
that doesn't take into account the crimes and brutality the free world commits on other nations
This is another variable that I am sure Markaba would not use; but which would be just as justifiable to use. The White European nations exploited the non-white nations of the rest of the world for centuries, and seldom doubted to use violence (in which they had technological and organizational advantages since 1500, much before they had true economic and political advantage at least over the empires of Asia) to pursue their goals. If men are uniquely more violent than women proven by historical record, you have to conclude that White Europeans are uniquely more violent than all the other races proven by historical record.
(I do believe that there is something in European/Western culture that makes it more "imperialistic", but I do not believe for a second that this is something racial, therefore genetic. For instance, even within Europe not every culture has been imperialistic to the same degree.)
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- Re: My goodness - Markaba on 2012-May-22 04:55:57 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 18)
- sigh - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 06:18:04 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 12)
- Re: sigh - Markaba on 2012-May-22 09:25:06 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: sigh - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 17:12:37 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- One important point - Dissident on 2012-May-22 10:21:26 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Wars. - GL_in_lyrics on 2012-May-22 06:51:49 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 7)
- Peace - Baldur on 2012-May-22 14:02:24 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- Re: Peace - Dissident on 2012-May-23 04:55:18 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Peace - Baldur on 2012-May-24 00:21:33 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Peace - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-23 06:08:07 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: Peace - Baldur on 2012-May-24 00:44:08 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Agreed for the 2nd time in 1 minute-nt - Dissident on 2012-May-23 07:15:55 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Peace - Dissident on 2012-May-23 04:55:18 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Wars. - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 08:52:07 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Peace - Baldur on 2012-May-22 14:02:24 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- BTW - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 06:23:49 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: sigh - Markaba on 2012-May-22 09:25:06 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- I can guess who voted for Bush - GL_in_lyrics on 2012-May-22 05:43:22 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: I can guess who voted for Bush - Markaba on 2012-May-22 19:14:35 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- I voted for Bush in 2000 - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 06:34:57 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: I voted for Bush in 2000 - GL_in_lyrics on 2012-May-22 07:04:55 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Also... about statistics - GL_in_lyrics on 2012-May-22 06:20:46 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- sigh - qtns2di4 on 2012-May-22 06:18:04 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 12)