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Re: Not a believer? (just guessing)
Posted by Dante on 2013-April-11 08:30:15 EDT, Thursday
In reply to Not a believer? (just guessing) posted by luvme2times on 2013-April-11 07:50:14 EDT, Thursday
This is looong before the NT. But either way, they were soon to be married women who were in a hurry to have progeny. ( And were both rather successful in conceiving on the first try. ) Now whether "married woman" is defined as post pubertal 18, 15 or 12, they were of marriageable age and past puberty. Not "little girls" by either their standard's, our society's or ours.
Had the guys taken Lot up on his offer, they would have been Hebephiles at best ( by a standard which wouldn't occur for a millennia or so. )
"God is all knowing, meaning he knew what was going to happen."
Not the OT Ghod who on several occasions can't see what humans physically conceal from Him ( and which He will later find out. ) Even if he is "blind," couldn't His ability to foresee allow Him to know now that which He will know later?
Again, He admits to Abraham that He's overheard condemnation of the cities on the plain, and admits He doesn't know now if it is true but has to go somewhere ( physically ) to see whether what He believes in ignorance will turn out to be true when He gets there.
No Omniscience, No Omnipresence. These qualities hadn't been invented for Him yet. Further, those qualities may have been attached to a later tribal Ghod who was conflated with the one in Genesis 18 and 19.
Our notion that the OT is supposed to be coherent is neither historically true, nor true on a literary level when it draws from diverse authors at various times in different stages of their cultural evolution.
Those authors would have had to have been Omniscient to create a mythology for wandering shepherds that could foresee them becoming settled urban citizens of a Hellenized Empire; and serve as a mythology for both cultures.
Its tempting to read NT concerns into the OT. Or even read OT monotheism into earlier passages where the Ghod of the tribes throws over the other Ghods, trumps Their Priests, or gives edicts concerning how his rival Ghods will be regarded by His people.
But that's a job for apologetics. Not for reading a straightforward narrative myth in its own context.
Dante
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- Re: Not a believer? (just guessing) - qtns2di4 on 2013-April-11 13:13:49 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Not a believer? (just guessing) - Dante on 2013-April-11 16:54:02 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- A truth seeker maybe? - luvme2times on 2013-April-11 09:37:34 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)