Just to be clear, I intend no respect in this post.

a much better contribution [than Dante]

Trying to play us against each other?

Do you not think many of those sordid outcomes could be prevented

My apologies, I really don't remember that as the start. Anyway, I'm more interested in where we are now.

I just don't understand why you base your views on sorditiy (not a word but you should get it). I actually base my views on, in your terms, the opposite, "pleasure and fun and meaning and all" and all. We have nothing in common.

You attack my character as a pedophile in care of kids in this world today, like you are a fucking god. You refuse to apologize for that attack after a pretty damn big effort to prove you were wrong, then you act all sweet and happy to hear from me and try to compliment me by comparing me favoritivly (again, figure it out) to Dante.

Just amazingly alarming to me that any thinking person would subscribe to your doctrine.

[Another post: Oh, and it's YOU that is the denizen at GC, not Dante. denizen by historical reference means a foreigner allowed certain rights in the adopted country.]

One last thing:

she was able to tell him just how to give her an orgasm or not

valuable information indeed. Just as important is the freedom, comfort, and skills to communicate it to your partner.