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Re: Weird ass place

Posted by Dissident on Tuesday, October 28 2014 at 05:26:48AM
In reply to Re: Weird ass place posted by EthanEdwards on Tuesday, October 28 2014 at 04:42:49AM

Just to make a few points clear, Ethan:

I don't hope that you fail as a person. You deserve to have a happy and productive life as well as anyone else. If you have that right now, then great, I don't wish you ill, or hope you lose the wonderful things in your life that you have. I also hope that Virped succeeds in doing its share of good while it exists, whether it be brief or long. If it does, more power to it.

As for good intentions, I guess that's a bit subjective. I think the outcome of intentions is more important than whether the intentions are "good" or not at the end of the day, anyway. I don't think you're out to do some intrinsic form of "good" for children and MAPs in general from my standpoint. I think you're fighting for the basic retention of the status quo, and I'm not saying this as an insult. I'm simply being frank with you, just as you are with me and others whom you've clashed with here.

Do I think you're a troll? No, even if your behavior can get trollish now and then with the difficulty you seem to find in posting about anything other than the contact issue. But as long as you do so within the confines of the FAQs, then I have no problem with you from the standpoint of a mod. If you want to make your main priority here to crusade against the pro-choice stance, that's fine too. Of course, you need to understand that most of those of that view feel as strongly in favor of it as you feel against it, so you can't expect not to clash with me and others who hold that view.

Could we ultimately find a way to work together despite that major difference? So far, the evidence seems to suggest that we can't, because that issue is just too important to both sides to overlook and focus on the more pleasant topics we can all get behind, such as enjoying the sharing of beautiful GM's, offering support when the going gets rough, discussing cinema, literature & art involving girls, etc. I think we can both agree by now that ideology is not a trivial issue to the community in general, and the emotion that goes into it makes it very difficult and frustrating for MAPs of opposing sides on such fundamental issues to co-exist and work together peacefully.

As a regular poster, I'm pleased to debate you any time. You're free to make any kind of public attack against me that you want, as long as it's not limited to a series of flagrant ad hominems. I think much of what you say and imply is insulting and condescending, but you don't do so in a way that goes out of bounds with academic cordiality. In that case, you're free to deride as you please, as long as you understand and expected to get a counter-response.

Do I think you're sincere about your stated agenda as you describe it? No, I don't, and I've told you that numerous times, so it's no surprise for you to read that here. You likewise believe those on my side of the major issue at hand have ulterior motives, and have told us so. That's fine. At least we understand this about each other, but all we can do now is wait for history to ultimately judge the more ethically upright side. I've chosen my side; you've chosen yours. All we can both do is say, "may the best ideology win in the end."

That being said, if ever you need genuine support, and seek it here, I won't hesitate to offer my shoulder. We might oppose each others' ideology and agendas to the core of our respective beings, but I won't ever forget that beneath all of that lies a human being who will sometimes be in need, and shouldn't be turned away just because I don't like where you stand on certain issues.






Dissident





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