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First of all, you are WEIRD

Posted by qtns2di4 on Thursday, October 30 2014 at 9:28:56PM
In reply to Paedosexuality and Incest. posted by JackSummer on Thursday, October 30 2014 at 03:38:19AM


Lesson number one of anthropology and sociology is (and should be taught to everyone first day of school) your tribe's customs are not laws of nature.

Do I think proclivities to incest are more common in pedophiles? No.

I do dig my sister, but we didn't live together (except briefly as adults) so there never was Westermarck. Also I don't consider her a pedo crush because I liked her since before my epiphany -- although OTOH my crush probably became lifelong when and because she remained girly looking into her 20s. But overall our circumstances tell me she does not count.

Contrast with the Daughter. Although she appeared in my life after her Westermarck imprinting age, she is, among my girls, by far whom I see most fatherly of all. And although she is still very attractive, and I do find her hot, I also have to say that she is also the one, of all my girls, whom I see least sexually of all. My fatherly feeling is maximized and my sexual attraction minimized, in her.

Does this mean I will not be (or less so) attracted to my daughters than exogamic girls? Who knows? Even the Daughter is not really my biological daughter, and as mentioned, she was past imprinting stage when I knew her... My sister stands as imperfect but possible argument that I will be, as much as Daughter stands as argument I won't.

And of course it is not generalizable, but it is the only perspective I can tell from the inside.

Do I think pedophilia and incest have a mutually reinforcing relationship in certain social settings? Yes.

It is clear that small communities which are comparatively sexually open foster a large degree of incest among themselves, than communities which are sexually not-open or larger.

(Size matters because of two things: bonding is only really meaningful among small groups. You cannot bond with everyone in your modern country or city even if you tried. And closing the group at some point acts as a barrier to STDs, assuming of course no external fluids enter the group. Self-containment, in short.)

Do I think, outside of comparable communities, incest and pedophilia maintain that relationship? No.

When the sexual openness is lacking or the community is too big or cannot self-contain, then the relationship is impossible and you have to look for either incest or pedophilia as different things in a different context than the previous.

Do I think incest is wrong in itself? No.

Neither "partaking" incest nor "pairing" incest is wrong. I think, however, that it is by default very dangerous to engage in in a society where parents hold a very large power over their children, and where other adults/families cannot act as safety valves; ie, as our society is. The abuse potential is far larger than in exogamic liaisons. Of course, all forcing is wrong and this is a lot of what is wrong -- that this society encourages forcing and does not make good environments for other arrangements which minimize or prevent coercion.


Of course, as a matter of principle I do support the full legalization of incest as much as I support the abolition of the AOC. Even though I am not touched by that law at all at the moment or for the foreseeable future. And both for sex itself and for marriage.








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