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And............ H.P. Lovecraft

Posted by Dante on Friday, October 31 2014 at 06:55:34AM
In reply to Re: Coming Out vs. the Toybox posted by qtns2di4 on Thursday, October 30 2014 at 7:32:36PM

"Same as even at the height of discrimination, everyone knew one good gay, one good Black, one intelligent woman"

Back when discrimination was combined with segregation of the races and of the genders it was all the more likely that the one holding the discriminatory belief did so in the absence of evidence.

The one black we know Lovecraft met was a silhouette artists he held in high esteem ( for a brief meeting ) and who he assumed was some exception to the rule of his race's lack of artistry.

For a larger sampling, at least a third of the "Lovecraft circle" ( and the only woman he loved ) were Jews; again exceptions to the tendencies that made him know that their races made them his inferiors.

It takes both a lack of discrimination as well as more social integration for political acceptance.

Greenwitch Village was ( effectively ) a TAZ most of the time. But so long as the queers confine themselves to the Village and the Castro, one can eliminate the out as intermingling with str8s enough to make a good impression.

Internet outing does little but create vulnerability. Being out to your friends like some of us, and out to the neighbors like a few others is the only thing that changes a mind; even if its not something you can prove you have done to the satisfaction of another nick on the Internet.

Heck, why don't I go for an almost Solipsistic level of agnosticism?

* ahem *

I only have Barry Caspar's word that "Barry" is a pseudonym. And I only have Norbert's word that he was out. I could check out all these claims about out versus nick online and see whether they match posted info about public d0x. But again, that's stuff posted online. There are entire books written on the topic of creating a false info-trail for PIs to follow.

I've never met anyone here. So I don't know if Joey Bishop's neighbors say, "Hey Joey, still watching tween celebrities on TV?" Or if "Norbert" wasn't a "Borat" like creation for a reality show. Unless I meet them in RL and spend enough time with them that they couldn't sustain a temporary ruse, I won't know. And that's as it should be. Only those who know us well enough to see that we wouldn't harm a girl should be aware of our claims about us being Pedos who would never harm a girl.

Dante

Dante





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