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Re: How would this look if you replied to me?

Posted by Hajduk on Saturday, November 29 2014 at 10:51:52PM
In reply to Re: How would this look if you replied to me? posted by Markaba on Saturday, November 29 2014 at 8:02:03PM


If you were making this point and still arguing for adult-child sexual contact, then I would suggest you are apathetic about the reality and/or selfish enough to overlook it for your own convenience. Right now, I believe you are simply deluded.

Um. False dichotomy back atcha.

I agree with this point and still argue for contact on different grounds:

1. First, legality with the corresponding expansion in openness would provide an easier way to prevent this in the first place, detect it if it happens, and help recovery after it happened for both the child and the adult, than the current system does.

2. All the more so with full youth rights.

3. The possibility that it happens does not imply the certainty, or even a high chance, that it will. We do not treat the mere possibility of something negative as a certainty that it will happen in order to ban it, even when children are involved (or show me where children are banned from cars or swimming pools.)

4. The treatment of a population (pedos) in public policy as both inherently and uniquely prone to engage in the specified risky behavior is contrary to everything we know and do, both with public policy, and with definable populations…

5. …and false too: more children are sexually abused by non-pedos; and more pedos are celibate (or have redirected) than sexually active.

6. The real life behavior of the departments, ngo's, and politicians involved in pushing for illegality clearly shows their statements about saving children to be at least empty, and even downright lies told for PR reasons for public consumption.

7. In the end there is no form of preventing everything bad from happening in the world. (cue Problem of Evil). While all attempts to prevent bad things always backfire and create more bad things. At best they prevent the original bad thing and create only other bad things of a different sort. Usually though, they create the other bad things without even preventing the original one. (Which happens with banning child-adult sex: I again refer to you that child molestation is on the rise since the early 1980s and still without reaching a peak or even a plateau.)

None of those reasons are about apathy or selfishness.

Most of them would suffice to me, alone, to be pro-contact. All of them together make a case that I find impossible to deny.






And, why I wrote the post in the first place… because I agree with you on the point. And because I think that by focussing on the disconnect between love and harm, we demand a standard of both thought and behavior that few people can meet. And those who cannot meet it, we have already excommunicated them. Even though they may be overall good guys. Even though we could very probably help them deal with their worst moments safely without risk to themselves or any children. By being holier-than-thou, we risk their children more than by embracing the imperfect among us. We serve their children better by helping the imperfect pedo through their problems than by chastising them for being imperfect.

(And yes, I got this from religion. Sorry for that.)












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