Dude, I don't pretend not to be a hebephile in real life. I don't pretend not to be pro-choice or a youth liberationist either. And believe it or not... I don't pretend not to be a Marxist.

If that's true, you are the exception to the rule.

There are many pro-choicers who are out in real life, even if not within the online MAP community.

Bullshit. There are a handful at best, and they are all outside of this community. Tom O'Carroll, okay. But the people in this community? I see no evidence that any of them are out. I see you saying you're out, which isn't exactly proof. And all of the people but me who were connected to this community and outed themselves have disappeared. Lindsay Ashford? MIA. Kevin Brown? MIA. James Knight? MIA. That's it. Where are the others?

Those who are not "out" to any degree aren't necessarily pretending to espouse any belief they do not actually have; they simply avoid addressing the "pedophile" issue. That's not pretending to be an entirely different person, with entirely different views.

Again, bullshit. You know that people who aren't out are knowingly projecting an image that is false. One of the reasons I outed myself is because I was tired of living a lie. But hey, if they want to do that, fine, I get it. But I will keep bringing it up every time you fucking call me a sellout. All your buddies here are no less "sellouts" than I am. It just manifests in a different way.

A position you think you can live with is a way of admitting that you did it simply to assuage your guilt and shame. That is selling out to yourself before you began to sell out to anyone else. Is this why mainstream liberalism as it's now constituted appeals to much to you? Because you can sit back and accept a defeatist attitude in the company of others who did the same?

You are just bound and determined to keep on with your hypocritical bullshit, aren't you? Nope. It's not about guilt or shame over my sexuality. If it was, then I sure as hell wouldn't be talking about my sexuality publicly and using my real name and face on the pedo boards. I was speaking of what I could live with morally. I didn't feel right supporting the pro-contact position when I did; I only did it to fit in here. If you want to call that guilt, so be it, but it isn't the same thing as what you're implying.

I don't hate myself. I don't hate other pedos just for being pedos. I get along just fine with my fellow pedos over at VirPed. I am not ashamed of my sexuality, but nor am I proud of it. I accept it, which is all I can do. But just because I'm attracted to children doesn't mean I am in any way obliged to support legalizing sex with kids. I don't have to support what I feel is fundamentally immoral just because I'm a pedo. I don't have to consider these guys my brothas just because we share an attraction, no more than I would be compelled to hate whitey if I was black, and I am not a traitor to pedokind for disagreeing with you on the contact issue.

Not when you have personally experienced the consequences of doing otherwise. In this case, you're the one being a hypocrite. Especially when you try to persuade us to do things (i.e., riot in the streets in this particular political climate) that you denounced as a bad idea in the past.

You still don't get it, do you? I'm not really trying to get you to do those things. I really don't care if you out yourself or not. I'm trying to get you to recognize that you are a massive hypocrite for attacking me for "selling out" when you and all your fellow pro-contacters are covering your asses just like I am, only you're doing it by hiding your identities. Say what you will about me, but at least I have the courage to claim my sexuality publicly. And at least I am doing something besides sitting at this forum endlessly spinning my wheels and griping about the group of MAPs who are doing something constructive.

Once again, you're projecting out of anger at yourself more than at anyone else.

Oh, really. Tell me more, Dr. Dissident. No, I am angry because you keep calling me a "sellout" when you can't see that that's exactly what you and the other pro-contacters are too.

The pot again calls the kettle black. At least most of us are consistent in our views rather than changing with our moods.

LOL, duh! Of course it is! I'm trying to make a point here by doing what you have done to me for years: calling me a sellout while you and the others are no better than me in that respect. In fact, I'd say you're considerably worse than me, because you actually believe that kids are being horribly mistreated on the level of the American slaves or the Jews under Hitler and yet you basically do nothing but grumble anonymously. If I perceived kids as being genuinely persecuted, I would be organizing a damned revolution. So, apparently you are too cowardly to publicly defend the people whom you claim to care about the most. Or, could it be that that's not what's really happening at all and you know it?