Re: Why did you wimp out? You hurt us all

Not only your fellow girl-lovers, but the girl, also.

:-(

A better tactic would have been to eyeball the chick despite the way she was dressed, and let her mother see that no amount of covering up is going to prevent men from looking at her daughter.

I didn't want to bring attention to myself even if I was looking her with her outer garment on. Then again, if her mother had caught me eyeballing her with the button-down shirt on, she probably would never have permitted her to remove it in the first place, since then I would be treated to seeing her in a *gasp! heaven forbid!* mid-driff tank top. Of course, as I noted, her mom insisted that she wrap the outer garment around her mid-driff area, so nobody could see her stomach.

When the bitch said "You're showing skin" a bit of conscious-raising was needed; something along the lines of "Great! If I had skin like that I'd show it myself!"

I have no doubt, Seamus, that one aspect of so many moms' dislike of their daughter's sexuality has to do with jealousy. They will deny this wholeheartedly, and try to argue that it's only about "protecting" their daughters, including preventing them from being oogled (but suppose their daughter's want guys of all ages to admire how beautiful their bodies are?), but I fully believe that at least some of their problems with it stem from jealousy over the fact that their daughters have what the moms are now rapidly losing due to the merciless hand of time. Of course, many men find older women attractive, and I've rarely seen older women have difficulty finding boyfriends if they want them, but that still doesn't change the fact that I think many moms have a competitive attitude towards their daughters' sexual attractiveness that they are loathe to admit.

That poor chick needed a bit of encouragement, a bit of reinforcing of her urge to break free of the cage her mother has built around her.

Yea, I did feel sorry for the girl, despite the fact that her mom appeared to be a nice and courteous woman otherwise, because this girl is going to have a hard time being able to express her sexuality without fear of reprisals from her mom. However, I didn't want to end up in a shouting match with the woman over that subject in the middle of a doctor's office, where several other patients were sitting, and with the receptionists' window just a few feet from me.

Me? I would have cursed her out, and told her to her face that she is not fit to raise a child. Crude, maybe, but catering to her authoritarianism only serves to reinforce it.

I don't think I catered to it, as I in no way defended her mom's words or apologized for the autocratic power she has over her daughter's body, even though I admittedly kept my mouth shut about it. I'm always mindful of where I stand in regards to parental power in these matters, and the woman wasn't being abusive enough to encourage me to speak out. But trust me, there are many sarcastically biting comments that I would have loved to have told her.

That poor child needs help, and you could have given it to her, if only for a moment.

I wasn't big enough to challenge her mother's power, but I would have if the woman really stepped out of line. But I didn't want to end up getting her more angry at her daughter, either, as the girl would have had to deal with that once they went home, after I was out of their lives. It's very likely that in such a situation, the mother would have blamed her daughter for such a conflagaration.

But, your reaction is understandable; I was arrested in Florida for asking a girl her name. A mother in the Midwest screamed to a librarian to "Call 911!" when she saw me looking at her daughters.

Given the climate of fear in which American men are living today, it is not surprising.

I was indeed concerned about just such an incident occurring, and in fact, I'm constantly worried about these things. Hence, I keep my distance from AG's, though I would intervene to assist them in a heartbeat if absolutely necessary.