GirlChat #457819
Just focus on human rights
Posted by Tyciol on 2009-January-01 06:32:09 EST, Thursday
In reply to Exactly!!!! posted by lgsinmyheart on 2008-December-29 21:49:32 EST, Monday
Defending free speech and freedom from violence and stuff is really all the 'rights' anybody here should be fighting for for themself. There is no such thing as 'ped rights' as far as I know. This classes 'peds' like they're some kind of distinct class of people, which honestly, seems a bit presumptuous to me, people are too eager to feel all special about themselves these days. It's like, some days I think "I am the best, guys who don't like socks are fools who should die" but then you take a chill pill and realize it really doesn't matter too much.
Basically, sex with people who aren't judged as informed enough to be given the right to legally consent, that should be illegal. It is. It should stay that way. You look at it as peds being punished, this really is NOT the case here. That's not it, because ANYBODY who breaks these laws in any way, is punished, as they should be. The problem is that people recognize that people aren't being evaluted correctly and thus skirt the 'unfair' law, like they're Robin Hood or something.
That's all recklessly Robinhood romantic'n all but it's irresponsible, reckless and destabilizes society. I've got no problem with healthy selfishness, but since this is something that involves other people (minors) it's not what I'd call healthy, since the consequences upset their lives.
It's better to be more responsible about this and speak your mind through getting involved with law and politics, and encouraging everybody to evaluate other people fairly and on a more accurate basis. This won't happen so long as many people here mirror the trend of distinguishing people into a mere 2 discrete classes of human called 'minor' and 'adult'. There really are more intermediary steps here, so long as we base interpersonal evalutations purely on age there are going to be problems recogizing this though.
If insurance companies want to base rates on generalizations about people then that's fine since they're a business and can make whatever agreements they like (just like I can open a white afro jew male eunich's club if I wanted to, it's my money) but government institutions should discriminate based on more concrete observations, judging in real time based on what people can demonstrate and not prejudging based on what people within that person's subgroup are thought to be capable of.
Basically, you're never really going to have to fight for any new rights here, at all. As legal sexual adults, we currently have a freedom to share ourselves with other people without their being pressured to ostrasize lest they be subjected to criminal repercussions, just so long as we consent to them and are informed about the circumstances, and so long as we do not choose to prosecute them. We share an equality with other sexual adults in that we must also prove we did not consent, rather than have it assumed we did not, so that others will not live in fear of proximity based on our wielding excesive powers over them.
Basically, what you want here is to extend this social anti-isolationism to others who deserve this freedom because they are capable of autonomous self-protection due to possessing the intellectual capacity to process information, make decisions, and have been exposed to adequate information about the acts in question.
Not all minors are going to fit that category, but then again, neither are all adults. Currently, with adults it is 'assumed they can consent until proven unable to consent'. That is incredible odd and seems irresponsible and contrast compared to the policy with minors is 'assumed they cannot consent, cannot prove able to consent'. I think the first thing to be done away with is the gifted assumption that adults are informed enough to consent to sexual intercourse, because I do not think many are.
The main problem I see here is people are too fixated on boning jailbait that they fail to see the opposite end of the spectrum of this issue here. It pays to have a wider view, and realize that developmentally delayed people are worth protecting just as much as developmentally accelerated people are worth freeing.
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- Most of that true, but also irrelevant... - lgsinmyheart on 2009-January-02 04:46:57 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)