If you can't be bothered to read my posts...

...then that means you didn't bother to read my scenario where I clearly explicated what I meant by "seduction" via giving a detailed scenario. This makes it clear that it's people like you, and not the pro-choicers, who do not like to hear anything that challenges their views. I asked for you to take a look at it and please explain to me how you can justify calling that type of "seduction" manipulative, coercive, or dishonorable in the least. But you didn't even bother to read it, and moreover, you keep doing something similar to what Lat complained about, which is decrying "seduction" in a mantra-like manner without giving the least bit of explanation as to why you think it's wrong, or the least bit of analysis of the scenario I described. That is highly unfair to me, and it doesn't say much about your stance other than suggesting that your misgivings are not based upon concern over something that would harm a child or teen but rather yet another stance based upon petty moralizing. I tried hard to explain and justify my stance to both you and the board, but you didn't even bother to do the same in return. You will next probably say, "I don't have to justify myself to you!" which, of course, is simply a way of saying, "I can't justify it, so I am not going to try." I believe I owe my community an explanation for every one of my beliefs and stances, and I believe I owe it to them to allay any concerns they might have about my positions and principles. That is just polite, along with a way of showing that I believe my beliefs and stances are actually valid.

What you did in the course of the "seduction" discussion was highly disrespectful. I think Baldur may have best explained it in his above response to me in this thread as to why you and others have such a huge and inexplicable problem with the concept of seduction: you think it's an attempt to coerce or trick someone into doing something they don't actually want to do, which is entirely false. I told you myself that seduction will almost certainly not work on a child, teen, or adult who does not have that type of interest in the seducer in the first place.

Please show me a simple bit of respect by looking at the scenario I wrote and analyzing it fairly and objectively before you accuse me--or anyone else on this board--of approving sinister and ignoble behavior towards the young people we love and respect.