You have been gone too long from these parts. And I was having a "flash back" to seeing your views for the first time.
Fortunately you gave me an ample refresher course as to the grounds on which we must agree do disagree. And frankly, in these brief exchanges, I think that the newbies can see our positions articulated by ourselves ( albeit with a little heat on both sides. )
Though two piffling points ( feel free to ignore, because they are incidental to our deeper POV statements.
"Let's take a look at two texts written by three quantum physicists who are respectable researchers and teachers in the field"
"But looking at the CVs of Rosenblum, Kuttner, and contributor to "Edge Science" magazines Henry, reveals that none of them are theoretical physicists working in the area of Quantum Mechanics. The two Applied Physics professors teach an undergrad course on which their book is based. But neither their degrees nor their research are in this area."
"Yet despite what you say, the Wikipedia entry on "Interpretation of quantum mechanics" (link provided below) clearly mentions Rosenblum and Kuttner as physicists,"
I never denied that they were physicists. I even told you which branch their education and research stems from. And that branch is not Quantum mechanics.
To use an analogy closer to our hearts. Will Eisner had strong opinions on Manga. Eisner did travel to Japan. And Eisner is one of the most important comix artists of the 20th century. But quoting him on Manga doesn't make him a Manga artist. :)
"Note that Henry is an atheist like yourself"
"RLY? Do you never look up something as soon as you see the slightest confirmation of your wishful thinking?"
"As opposed to your own wishful thinking that is based in no way on research, but every way on ideology and a hatred of the possible implications of certain research on your worldview? Nothing that you ever cite to refute what I say ever comes close to totally disproving the theories you dislike, whereas I never say they have been entirely proven, but only that they do make a sound theory based on the available research and my own personal research (which doesn't require writing out complex mathematical equations, but I'm certain someone could)."
None of which addresses the question of why an "Atheist" is concerned enough about keeping the Christian Sabbath that he quotes the fourth commandment in full on a page dedicated to it;
Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work. But the seventh day is the Sabbath in honor of the Lord thy G*d; on it thou shalt not do any work, neither thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it. |
Is THAT the work of an Atheist? Was his Atheism borne out by your research. Because it didn't take much time to pull back from the review you cited to look for more about him on his homepage ( which hosted both the review, and the Bible heeding calendar reform page. )
But again, all of this is purely incidental to the meat of our differing views.
And you do enough important work on enough fronts without me bogging you down into this essential difference of views on science.
Of course the irony of this all, is that were you me and Markaba to ever meet in RL, any heated convo about Science or Philosophy would get derailed at the sighting of the first comic book store. And then we'd spend the next hour comparing notes over back issues :)
Dante