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Re: Diss would call it debate
Posted by qtns2di4 on 2012-August-06 06:37:18 EDT, Monday
In reply to Re: Diss would call it debate posted by Dissident on 2012-August-04 22:53:42 EDT, Saturday
You didn't see anything like this opposition ten years ago, at the height of the hysteria, when Levine and Kincaid were practically alone in their protests; now, you see more and more books popping up that question the sex offender laws and continued attacks on youth rights that were spawned from the hysteria.
But it might be too late.
children did not start widely reporting consensual experiences of this nature with adults as being "damaging" until the sex abuse narrative became entrenched in our society
Moreover, given (and even few antis dare question this) that child-adult sexual contact was not a huge deal until recently, it's reasonable to assume it was as prevalent or more in older eras as it is now; which, if there is intrinsic harm, should have caused the collapse of civilization and humankind itself. We would never have made it out of a few thousand individuals some tens of thousands years ago, if really child-adult sexual contact had intrinsic harm: the adults would have been too busy being traumatized to avoid being eaten by sabertooth cats, or even too busy to hunt and gather.
And we cannot in accurate estimation say that it's only a "few," because we do not currently know how much sexual behavior amongst children--either with peers or intergenerational--occurs under the radar
We do have a proxy, but it is very imperfect: teen pregnancies.
Teen pregnancies are still common in many countries, and have not descended in the USA for a couple decades.
Of course, this is very imperfect: prepubescents don't get pregnant; same-sex sexual activity doesn't cause pregnancy; pregnancies only tell you numbers of sexually active females, but not of males (which matters if, as is probable, the average number of sexual partners differs between both); some sexual activities rarely or never cause pregnancy even when practiced heterosexually between fertile partners (and even genital heterosexual penetration has a relatively low "success" rate compared to the therian mammalian standard); and, the most distorting factor, contraceptive knowledge and access exist, preventing some pregnancies, and are unequal, preventing fair comparisons across demographic groups (In particular, the European rates of teen pregnancies are too low to be believable about anything).
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- Re: Diss would call it debate - Dissident on 2012-August-06 10:54:28 EDT, Monday - (2 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Diss would call it debate - qtns2di4 on 2012-August-06 19:32:57 EDT, Monday - (3 / 0 / 0)