On an all-purpose GL forum, a no-youth lib discussion rule is not going to happen, Markie. You and other anti-choicers need to accept that. There are other MAP boards with more limited purposes and discussion parameters you can go to for that (the VirPed board being one of them!).

Oh, I accept it. I'm just stating for the record what is obviously happening here.

Yes, the discussion and debate over all views, rather than just one, is happening here. And that's the way it is on an all-purpose forum whose only common parameter is GL, no matter which view happens to be in the majority.

Poor Markie, that he continues to love this place and the support and forgiveness he's always received on it despite now having a MAP board to go to where the choir can't sing any tune he doesn't want to hear. It sucks to be him, it does! *gives him a brotherly hug*

Fuck off, Dissident.

That was rude. Even more rude to refute my brotherly hug *turns away*

I admit I have an unhealthy relationship with GC and probably will for the rest of my life.

And is it our fault you can't let us go? Maybe we're being enablers for this unhealthy relationship you describe for being so accepting and forgiving no matter how often you lash out and vent your own problems on u? And is it my fault for maybe concluding that you can't leave here because we are the closest thing you have to a community?

But you aren't going to antagonize me into leaving.

Markie, I never could. Because you never truly wanted to leave. Because as much as you shout at me, I'm like one of the brothers you love but can't see eye-to-eye on about anything. If I can admit that about you, then you can admit feeling the same in may case, and with many others here. I don't want you to leave so much as return to being the Markaba I first met and grew to respect.

Ethan needs my assistance in offering an alternative to the all or nothing philosophy of the pro-contacters, and that's what I'm doing.

LOL!!! Was I not supposed to laugh at this clumsy rationalization? Sorry, Markie, but you exhibited this pattern long, long before you even knew Ethan existed. He's just your latest excuse to never leave the place that you consider your actual home. Because you can discuss things with us that the VirPed's would have no interest in hearing.

And that "alternative" thing again? You still seriously buy into the idea that the anti-contact stance is something no MAP has ever heard before? Do you by any chance burst out laughing whenever you type that? Because I have too much respect for your intelligence to think that you (or him) actually believes that line. Or that you seriously believe any pro-contacter needs you and Ethan to tell them what numerous newscasters, talk show hosts, columnists, and people they know in real life tell them every single day of their lives when they're not here?

I still like you for now, but the condescending asshole shtick is testing the limits of my affection for you.

You mean like how you have constantly tested the limits of my affection for you on numerous occasions you hit me and the rest of this community with your insults and insinuations, including over the past few days when we've had our latest cheery exchange on this topic? Sorry, Markie, but you need to learn that people tend to reap what they sow, even from those they share affection with.