these arguments. I don't see why safety and liberty need to be at odds. Liberty should not mean do anything we want.

You say deal with facts. My point is that the "kids" (arguably not kids and I would have to agree) are speaking out in favor of gun control but both the politicians and the media don't take them seriously (maybe because their opinions are not 'equal' {as Haj says}?).

I'm not trying to take sides on GC on a political issue. I'm trying to listen to young people. Being "realistic", we can't tell them not to go to school or not to get in a car. But we owe them better answers than 'shit happens'.