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Civilized society. An end to the human race.

Posted by Gimwinkle on Wednesday, June 27 2018 at 05:33:27AM
In reply to The problem as I see it. posted by The Warrior on Tuesday, June 26 2018 at 10:02:06PM

If you look at some of these "uncivilized" cultures like in remote islands in the Pacific or along the Amazon (what's left of it), you can see how they used to run around naked, men, women, children, and whatever there was.

Then, along comes a National Geographic crew wanting to take photos and make videos to show "civilized" cultures, you see these indigenous peoples living in an unfettered environment that "civilized" cultures are slowly eating away from, leaving the indigenous peoples no more resources to continue their free way of life. And what do you see in these pictures and videos?

Everyone is wearing clothes now. Living in long houses that are infested with cockroaches, ants, spiders, and lice.

Every now and then, you catch a scene where some kid wanders by in the video's background wearing nothing but a smile. You can see how the "civilized" culture has ruined these free peoples.

Think of Mutiny on the Bounty, and WHY they mutinied. It really wasn't because of Captain Bligh because most British ship's captains were just like him... they had to be due to the horrid life of the sailor back then. Then, the Bounty discovered Tahiti and the free life of the indigenous people who lived life to the fullest there, the innocence, the good food, the friendly people, the beautiful women who threw themselves at the strange sailors hoping to get pregnant by them. (Why? to escape inbreeding inherent to island life.)

So the crew objected, knowing they HAD to leave the ship... to mutiny. To escape the wrath of England, they had to hide. But where? They took their new wives (some just reaching puberty) and discovered Pitcairn, a place not only difficult to find, but difficult to get to once there.

And life went on for a great many years where sex, love, and community went on unfettered by "civilized" interference.

In 2004 came the famous trial: (most of the following text is from Wikipedia)

Pitcairn's 47 inhabitants, almost all of whom are interrelated, were bitterly divided by the charges against what constituted most of the adult male population. Many Pitcairn Island men blamed the British police for persuading the women involved to press charges. Some of the women agreed. Sources close to the case said that when several women withdrew their charges it was due to family pressure.

On 28 September 2004, Olive Christian, wife of the accused mayor, daughter of Len Brown and mother of Randy Christian, both of whom were also among those accused, called a meeting of thirteen of the island's women, representing three generations at her home, Big Fence, to "defend" the island's menfolk. Claiming that underage sex had been accepted as a Polynesian tradition since the settlement of the island in 1790, Olive Christian said of her girlhood, "We all thought sex was like food on the table." Carol Warren’s two daughters also said that they had both been sexually active from the age of 12, with one of them claiming that she started having sex at 13, "and I felt hot shit about it, too." They and other women present at the meeting, who endorsed their view that underage sex was normal on Pitcairn, stated emphatically that all of the alleged rape victims had been willing participants.

Charlene Warren, who withdrew charges against a Pitcairn man, claimed that detectives had offered her money to testify; when pressed, she clarified that the money referred to statutory "compensation for victims of crime." Some women came up with a conspiracy theory that the trial was part of "a British plot to jail the [community's] able-bodied men and 'close' the island." "They've picked on all the viable young men, the ones who are the backbone of this place," said one, Meralda Warren.

Not all women on the island were such defenders. Some present at the Big Fence meeting sat "silent and appeared ill at ease," giving reporters the impression that they did not hold the same views.

Many of the islanders boycotted the trial. "It's better for me not to know who's charged with what, so that I can still look them in the face as mates," one islander said. "We still have to work together to keep this place going." While many islanders remain fearful that the outcome of the trial could sound the death-knell of the tiny state, others expressed optimism that it could mark a new beginning for Pitcairn as people previously excluded from the power structure would find themselves needed and appreciated for their skills and contributions in a new way.

Many Pitcairners felt unfairly treated; for instance, Mike Warren said the whole trial was a "setup" from the start. Former Pitcairn resident Reeve Cooze expressed the sentiments of many islanders on Radio New Zealand when he declared, "The Pitcairn people have been bullied."

As of April 2006, the cost of the trial amounted to NZ$14.1 million (almost 10 million US dollars).

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