First, note how he describes (most recently here: https://www.annabelleigh.net/messages/726138.htm) in great detail what I know, what I think, and why I believe and act the way I do. It's profoundly disrespectful and arrogant. I don't think most of us would put up with that from a psychotherapist we'd been seeing for ten years.

You (all of Vichy, not just you Ethan) do the same thing to us pro contacters.

What's good for the goose...

He believes our society is rotten to the core. The nuclear family is horrible.

Both true.

The capitalist masters are horrible.

False, but so what? You shouldn't need to argue his other political positions to criticize his pro contact views.

I'm almost as opposed as could be to his leftist economic views. And still I'm a pro contacter too.

The only two Vichy members I've read extensively (you and Todd) are both mainstream libruls -- probably Todd a little more Progressive than you. I don't assume all of Vichy are libruls. I don't assume there are no centrists or right wingers among you; or, for that matter, far leftists either (like Dissident himself is).

I'm not a right winger (and to some of you, even a far right winger...) just because I'm pro contact. Both of those positions have evolved over time. Either could have gone differently. However, in my mind they are connected and mutually coherent. But the fact I consider pro contact to be an inherently conservative position and anti contact an inherently leftist one doesn't mean I will focus on your wrong political views in order to dismiss your wrong position on contact.

Adults are a class that rules over children and seeks to keep children oppressed.

True.

He favors a socialist state. As I recall his complaint with the USSR was that they just didn't do it right.

1. So?
2. You didn't even understand his positions if you claim this.

He has a faith that human nature is 100% good if only freed of the shackles of our system.

I disagree. Entirely. I'm a Calvinist. I believe in Total Depravity. And again, so what? Should I criticize your anti contact positions because you don't believe humankind is inevitably fallen and sinful?

There are millions of people in the West who are better read and more profound thinkers than either of us, and somehow it's only the tiniest minority that would buy into his analysis

Yeah, it's called indoctrination.

Surely, he says, almost all of those millions of elite thinkers (let alone the other 99%) are acting only in their narrow self-interest because they don't want society to change.

And according to the elite thinker Ethan self interest doesn't exist. I have news: self interest is the main driving force of everything humans do.

Dissident dismisses those with opposition opinions as slaves to the capitalist system, saying they dare not differ for fear of losing funding from the powers that be. It is thus a self-contained and un-falsifiable view.

The consistent censorship of right wing views on the lamestream media, traditional and online alike, proves this: Milo, Jones, and many more right wing thinkers show this.

You have someone who thinks the only thing in the way of achieving that profound change is not seeing things the way he does.

Same as you at Vichy think.

He is seriously deluded.

Seriously, get a mirror, Snowflake!