..and many others, many angles, many viewpoints. This is the only way to get your own hints at the truth. Never limit your influences. Not even from one country.

In these two cases, I suspect one is just following his religion, and the other likely had a very negative experience as a kid, or was close to someone else who did.

They still make lots of intelligent and valid points. Not always. This is the way of the world. Discerning minds can navigate toward opinions of their own.