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Re: I HATE hearing news like this....

Posted by Iron Marxist on 2008-November-20 10:54:17 EST, Thursday
In reply to Re: I HATE hearing news like this.... posted by Goethe on 2008-November-20 10:36:04 EST, Thursday

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at the end of the day it was apparently his OWN offspring, so on that basis he shouldn't be actually held "criminally" accountable as such. That's my position on it anyway I know there are plenty such as Minstrel who will want to come in here for the kill to rip my fucken head off over saying it, but I do feel inexorable on the age old principle of absolute parental ownership of something they have created of their very own flesh and blood

I am one of those people who will come in here and "rip your fucken head off" regarding support for the principles that parents own their children just because they are of their own flesh and blood and share their DNA. Children are completely different entities from their parents, are also capable of abstract thought and reason, and have unique feelings, opinions, and ways of seeing the world. They are NOT the equivalent of glorified pets, nor are they organic robots, created for nothing more than their parents' amusement or as objects for their parents to mold any way they please. In other words, they are seperate individuals and have the right of complete autonomy of being. This is why I'm a youth liberationist and fight for emancipation of youths. Likewise, the Greens say in their platform that children are NOT the property of their parents. I don't understand your support of children as property, Goethe...you're an MAA and as such I would think that you would appreciate the concept of autonomy for people under 18. Please note that as long as kids remain the property of their parents, those parents will never allow "their" property to have relationships with other adults who may influence the kids in ways the parents do not want. After all, would a conservative Christian parent want their 14 year old daughter to have a romantic relationship with a Marxist Wiccan like myself, who may turn her on to ideologies and viewpoints that her parents, i.e., her "owners" are opposed to? Please think on that, old friend.

Iron Marxist


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