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Re: Policing and Pride Communities

Posted by Dante on Sunday, August 17 2014 at 06:43:46AM
In reply to Re: Policing and Pride Communities posted by EthanEdwards on Saturday, August 16 2014 at 11:48:50PM

"Where we are is with a public who doubts more than a freak pedophile or two exists who does NOT abuse children. If I say that many pedophiles do not abuse children, that's a radical step.

And when you tell a fearful people who already believe the worst that the latter doesn't represent a different community than the former, and their beliefs about "pedophiles" are true, just how much credibility do you think they will give your possibly self-serving claim; especially as it has no known numbers and the former one does.

"A lot of Pedophiles are monsters, here's the numbers"

"Yes, we've seen the numbers."

"But more aren't, although nobody outside of ourselves commonly claim this and nobody has any numbers for you."

"Erm, we'll go with the numbers you Monster you."

Funny VirPed's FAQ says that Pedos aren't Molesters; which places it in line with the APA and the FBI. But whenever you open your mouth on the issue you link Pedo identity to the rapists.

What those trying to prevent child molestation know is that the majority of the offenders are situational. But, due to their nature, they are much more difficult to catch, study or even detect a pattern prior to offense in order to intervene.

Also, because their actions are rash and not predictable by type of victim, they don't involve "commitment" to one type or one victim. And some are so random that their offense was a one time thing.

This is why LEAs are agnostic about the numbers. Clearly 57 "one time" offenses are greater than 55 repeated offenses split between three offenders. But the three offenders make an easier and more rewarding target to take off the streets. Now the nature of "one time" offenses and the difficulty to intervene or even detect means that even if the numbers are more like 1000 to 55, they will still go for the three offenders they can predict track and eventually catch rather than the 1000 who are more difficult. This is a matter of allocation of resources and demonstrating effective policing; not a matter of what harms children the most or whether measurables about the known are truer than the evidence that can be inferred about the unknown.

And it sure as heck isn't a dismissal or the harm of situational offense.

But again, there are reasons why LEO experts coach other police not to make pig ignorant ( pardon the pun ) statements which lazily substitute "Pedophile" offender for "Situational" offender. Because the demographic doesn't tell you who to look for, what to look for or the patterns of action to look for.

Projection by the self-loathing and false identification with the criminal is an impediment to policing. The cops know that when an anonymous public violent act happens that one of the stumbling blocks to catching the criminal are others calling in to take "credit." Sometimes its not a braggart but is some soul whose lack of self-esteem leaves them so "guilt-ridden" that they take credit for what they didn't do. But think of the lives lost to a serial bomber when the cops waste their time focussing on the self-loathing but innocent person.

The innocent law abiding Pedo who internalizes the myth may commit suicide because they conflate desire with action. Even if they are incapable of rape they may be groomed to believe that this is their legacy and their people. Imagine the time wasted by the cops on a "stop me before I rape" plea which is just someone struggling to accept a harmless fantasy.

Further, imagine that they don't choose suicide by pills but suicide by cop? Aren't you encouraging the harmless to commit crimes rather than just accept that a fantasy is a fantasy and that their past harmless actions can continue eternally into the future without an inevitable decay?

From a LEA perspective profiling only works when you're profiling a criminal activity, not a community. Finding out how carjackers operate matters more than sussing out minorities.

It would be nice if you could support the LEAs and the APA and say Pedophile when you mean it. Say Preferential Child Molester when you mean it. And not use the terms interchangeably.

" It's hard to find sympathetic footage of a pedophile anywhere."

Oh it is.

By sheer population density we are everywhere and just as beloved as any other. Sometimes moreso because we actually listen to kids and like them.

Its just that if we're outed the phony comparisons to Preferential Offenders begin along with slurs about our motives. Care to stop promoting those?

Dante

Dante





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