Yeah I think I hit all the major points. First trying to control the debate by making arbitrary rules (children can't consent no matter what nah nah nah poo poo) and then lumping all kinds of things together. From fun wrestling to being beat by a parent, from mutual fun masturbation to full on rape. They make no distinction and claim victory.

I also bring that up in debate with the spanking. Especially when people say "they can't understand the complexities of sexual contact" and then I will say "so they can understand the relationship between being hit and realizing their parents are just doing it to prevent them from doing something the parent deem bad, whether it is bad or not, and be able to do this through pain and emotional unrest in a non-consensual situation but they can't understand "I like him, he likes me, I like how that feels, he likes how this feels?""

And as you said, non-consensual pain and suffered at the hands of a loved one........ A OKAY! Pleasurable consented contact with a love done......... Evil and will DESTROY their soul.

It's literally one of the most illogical things I have ever heard.

We have a lot of work to do.