Re: Running from the problem is no solution

Look Markaba, I admire you and relate to you. I read your posts often, they strike a cord with me because I feel the same way you do all the time. But I feel you are misunderstanding me.

Perhaps, and if so then I apologize. But, to be honest, it is a bit suspicious on several levels when someone comes here and immediately suggests we all move out of the country and start adopting kids.

Relocating is not running away from a problem or abandoning your problems. It's putting yourself in a better position to live the life that is best suited to you.

It's a matter of perspective, I guess. To me it IS running away--from my family, friends and life HERE, not to mention what I see as a civic duty to fight on THIS soil for this community.

I would love to live in the naive world in which you do and believe that I am engaged in some struggle against this mysterious force that is against pedophiles but that's not the way to deal with things. As I stated in another post, if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, would you stay? A black in Alabama in 1950? A Christian in Rome? NO.

It sounds like you believe our fighting for our rights is a hopeless cause. I disagree strongly. Many Jews stayed in Germany at the outset of the war, even though they had a chance to leave. Why? Because they did NOT want to abandon their families and friends in Germany, nor did they feel they should have to flee. They stood on principles. Were they stupid to do so? It depends on your perspective, I suppose.

Me, I believe there are some things worth risking your life for--these include truth and freedom for ALL people who want to engage in nonharmful activities, including not only the peds but the children in America, who deserve to be liberated as much--or more--than we do. This is a war on two fronts, remember.

You can disagree with me or not, that's fine but don't degrade me for my decision. I'm old. I'm tired of fighting and I was tired of sadness. I simply wanted to find my own slice of happiness in this life just for myself. I had a bad childhood, very little happiness in my young adult life and did my fair share of activism. Enough was enough.

Okay, fine. You opted for a different route, and more power to you. But likewise, don't insinuate that we who have ground in our heels to fight against the tide of anti propaganda are hopeless, delusional and stupid for believing that SOMETIMES there are more important things than one's own happiness. Fighting for what's right is one of those things, in my mind.

In my mind, you ARE taking the easy way out. You are denying your true self and not living as you know in your heart you should be all the while flaming someone like me, who has chosen the road less traveled.

Denying my true self by coming out to the world as an exsclusive ped and spending the rest of my life showing the world by example that we are more than just walking penises? That we have minds, hearts and backbones too? I don't see it.

You are not defending anything. You existence in the U.S. and your activities there have not made one bit of difference to cause pedophiles to be more accepted at all.

I'm really sorry to write that and that is a jagged little pill for you but it's true.

Not one bit of difference. Yet you are willing to sacrifice your entire life and your own happiness in the delusion that it does.

We'll see. History suggests you're wrong, though--after all, the Jews were eventually liberated and given Israel, the slaves were freed, and I think it's obvious to Christians are no longer persecuted. You can't walk three feet in the Western world without encountering some relic or representation of that religion. Not to mention the fact that they've shifted from the persecutees to the persecutors.

Me? I'll just enjoy my life and relationships with my children where I'm at and die a happy and free man.

Glad to hear it.

That's not true and you obviously haven't checked on foreign adoption laws for it's RESIDENT citizens.

For someone who defines his entire being as a pedophile, I'm surprised you are not aware of the many options available to you and the differnent laws and attitudes that affect you throughout the world.

Again, I don't want to move to Timbuktu to have a right to be myself. America is supposed to be the land of the free, and it will be again. Either that, or it'll cave in under the weight of its own moralising, hypocricy and paranoia. Either way, I will stand firm and fight, energized by the knowledge that my actions are right and that our victory over injustice, cruelty and stupidity is inevitable. That it might not happen in my lifetime is of no consequence to me.

Ok fine, we will all erect a shrine at your gravesite in Washington, D.C. when you are hung on the White House lawn for being a pedophile. Boy, that will really help the cause of pedophile rights, huh?

Actually, if that happened, I'm sure it WOULD help our cause, since I've done nothing wrong and I still believe that the vast majority of Americans are moral and compassionate beings, despite the media's attempts to ratchet up the hateful rhetoric and spew propaganda.

No most of them are homeless due to the corruption of their government and as a result of failed communism and socialism.

Or rather, the foreign policy of the American government, which demolished socialist countries out of its own greed, hatred and fear. But you missed you point. I wasn't talking about what caused the children to be in that predicament--by social purity movement, I'm specifically talking about the current hatred of peds which prevents them from adopting and caring for children in THIS country.

There are millions of child lovers here in the U.S. who would gladly take in foreign children who are homeless and starving, but the zeitgeist of mistrust and the huge amount of red tape preventing single males (and in some cases, single females) from easily adopting those children, not to mention the fact that if they're a known ped or have been convicted of downloading cp or mutual sex play with a minor, the chances of adopting are zero.

I'm shocked that you never checked into this. I thought you loved children? Well, there's probably a couple hundred within a hundred miles of you with no home at all. Will you help them? (that question is rhetoric as I know you have a conviction of some sort).

I do NOT have a conviction! I outed myself to the world for my reasons which had nothing to do with breaking the law! My record is squeaky clean, buddy.

I admire you guys for doing that because doing that negates any sort of relationship you could have with a child. But at the same time, I know that such a thing could be the result of your own repression and self loathing causing you to do that to internally sabotage yourselves and ultimately prevent yourselves from having a relationship with a child.

It's a huge sacrifice--I knew that going into it, but I still felt it was important enough to make that leap and I still do, despite occasional bouts of despair and angst. But I had those bouts long before I came out on GC, so nothing much has really changed for me.

If you were a pedophile and could only live in happiness if you had a relationship with a child and the one thing you could do to prevent such a relationship is to come out in public and declare yourself a pedophile, I can only question your real motivation for doing such a thing.

I'll say it again then: I believe there are some things that are far more important than my individual happiness. Correcting the huge injustices we face from standpoint of an open and proud ped is one of those things. We have a right to be ourselves, and I am doing so by example. Hell yes, it's hard, but doing what's truly right almost always is. My motivation is nothing less than justice, equality and freedom for both peds and children.

Well, for one thing I'm not denying myself personal happiness by living my life as a ped and I'm not dissuading others from doing so either. If you want to line up on the chopping block to have your head cut off to think you are furthering some cause, so be it. I won't.

You have that right.

Markaba, I am not your enemy and you shouldn't spend you time flaming me. I understand your position. I used to think like that. But at times you reach a point in your life when you realize that it's best to grab at whatever happiness you can find and hold onto it.

Again, I apologize for any harshness against you. And don't assume that I NEVER have happy days or get to see children. I do have lots of little cousins and nieces and such, and even though I will never be alone with them (more out of the fear of their moms and dads being perceived as bad parents, I think, than anything else, as they know I'll never do anything the slightest bit sexual with any of them), I still get to hang out with them on occcasion and I love them very much.

Sometimes, 'causes' are lost causes. You will carry on your made-up struggle and fight until you are an old man and then realize that your life has been wasted.

It's never a waste to fight real injustice, even if it accomplishes nothing. Fighting for what is right is of higher value to me than living in a comfort zone having done nothing important for the cause I most believe in. My choice is one of morality over lifelong happiness.