lol... silly wolife!!

I don't froth with the preemies, just with the antis... whatever set they're found from. :p

There is a time and a place for each type of battle. I do not think, however, that a brutal frontal attack is necessary for all clashes. Clearly, reasoned debate and arguement will produce desired effect in most cases.

Yes - when we force them to it. Then again? With anyone for whom reason produces any sort of desireable conversation - agree or disagree, there's usually not a clash to begin with. ;)

"Forcing someone to reason" isn't a tactic intended for someone already engaging under such - and you'll note that the second time I re-entered, I made the mistake of discussing reasonably - until he stopped doing so. :p

'to every thing there is a season...' ;)

You point to the fact that the anti's are using violence, hate and fear to cow the masses into seeing things their way? And I point to any number of regimes which have engaged in similar tactics to subdue and goad the people to their way of thinking: they failed... they failed because eventually, the truth gots out and they lost credibility, and the people that were supposed to be cowed rose up and stood with the ones who were used as scapegoats. How many more lies will be uncovered before the people of society will begin to vocalize what we know they are already starting to think in the silent vaults of their own minds? We must encourage them to join with us...

...actually, to a great degree, it's already happening. A lot, in fact.

Keep in mind, though, that those in power can point to one to justify ignoring a million. Sad, yes, but true.

Nonetheless, if we want those who are cowed to stop being cowed, we'll probably have to be the shock troops in question. Our supporters in their masses hide behind us, rather than the other way 'round.

...luckily, I have nefarious plans for just this. ;)

expose the frothing lunacy in the vengeful right, draw them off balance...

hehehe...

...but what of the frothing left and the rational right? I take supporters from all who would rise to thus, just as I crush enemies wherever I find them.

...sometimes in discourse, sometimes in economics, sometimes in infrastructure... ;)

let the mistakes of anger and fear be THEIRS.. not ours.

Again... amazing how I calmed down when I came in the room and the gentleman seemed briefly rational, and how I "snapped" when he started thinking he could get by with frothing hypocracy...

...'Render unto Caeser's that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is of God...' To each in the coin they wield, and richer than they can give it. ;)

Of course - you're probably looking for pertinent quotes which don't come from JudeoChristian religious texts, whether or not they're being used in a fashion of agnostic value... so I'll try to find something on topic...

'When the enemy is at ease, be able to weary them. When fed, to starve them. When at rest, to make them move. When I wish to give battle, my enemy, though surrounded by high walls and deep moats, cannot help but defend - for I attack a position which they must hold sensitive.

Those skilled at making the enemy move do so by creating a situation to which they must conform.

Apply that which is solid against that which is void, and the enemy crumbles as a grindstone thrown against eggs.'

- Sun Tzu, VI 4, 11; V 20, 4

I propose that I have accomplished these things.

Intrafamilial violence is the void of our enemy's weakness. My education and confidence are strengths. When their own will question such "oversights" so thouroughly, down to the very last man in majority of opinion, no matter how defended "but thou art queer" may seem, must they hold sensitivity to attack, here and elsewhere - and respond.

I am revolutionary and militant enough to weary one of tactics of disreason. And, thus, do I uphold VI.2 - I bring the enemy to my chosen field of battle, any level field predicated on rational discourse, and as VI.1, it is there I stand at ease.

In irrational discourse, I uphold IV.13, for the subject of violence against children is one by which my position can never be defeated, and yet, by means rational, I already hold the field, for this has never been an attitude the inverse side has seen fit, nor held any means, by which to protect.

'Therefore, the skilled commander takes up a position in which they cannot be defeated and misses no opportunity to master the enemy.'
- Sun Tzu, IV.13

...I humbly propose that I have done these things. You are however right, and hence the citation prior of each in their own coin...

...war is only for those who war. Let others be paid in different coin - when they are to be found, that is.

Tzu. It's a good book. The first chapter says we are already victorious. Check it out sometime.. ;)