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Re: Easy, Trigger!!

Posted by Dissident on 2009-December-29 11:22:07 EST, Tuesday
In reply to Re: Easy, Trigger!! posted by justincredible on 2009-December-29 09:39:30 EST, Tuesday

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yes i have calmed down but your still innacurate in many things you say. like that i have many lg's in my life. the truth is don't, but i don't claim to. i had a job for a while that put me in contact with lg's but only when there parents were around. when i have GM's i post them, that's just about all i do here in regards to posting.

Thank you for cooling down a bit.

I would like to point out that if you did things on this board other than just post GMs of this nature, then maybe people would respect and trust you more, and you wouldn't come off to some as simply trying to provide a caricature-like image of MAAs on a public board. Your personality would be more fleshed out and people on this board would see that you are a multi-faceted individual with many different views on many different things rather than having you convey the (I'm certain, incorrect) impression of having a "one track mind." All of us know there is much, much more to a GLer than a mere attraction to and interest in girls, and though the subject of GL is the primary topic of this board, it's nice to see other facets of each other from time to time.

in my post to you i said anybody with your opinions and people like you...but for the record he's a fucking idiot. he says my story is complete fiction, well guess what, it's not, so that tells me his troll radar doesn't work all that good. after i wrote the "my response" post, which i'm thinking you must not have read because i addressed many of the innacuracies you have mentioned like that i was alone with these girls...because i wasn't.

So you are saying that this LG in question started masturbating with the sheets in front of a small group of people? As for the quality of Shenannigan's "troll radar," I am not saying he is always right (no one is) but he is on target often enough that I do at least listen to what he has to say even if I don't take his every word as complete gospel.

once again, i don't see what there is to gain by being popular here.

What is so unusual about having a desire to be liked by a sizable number of people in a community in which you greatly identify? And if you are trusted and well-respected (in contrast the word "popular") then people will LISTEN to you more and have more trust in what you say.

i mean isn't the point of GM's to share parts of your life to other glers that maybe don't get to experience any themselves?

All of us have GMs from time to time, which is why the majority of us have a good inkling of what type of incident is likely and what isn't, or more specifically, what type of events are common and what are likely to be rare. And though we can all agree that very unusual and even incredible things happen to everyone from time to time, you have to expect people to question it when some people claim to have such outre experiences on a regular basis (as Dante pointed out to you up above).

no, i most certainly haven't, but you said i would never get chat access. which was rude, that's why i said if it is filled with judgemental people who selectively pay attention to the facts i don't want to be there.

The thing is, we are not sure at this point as to whether or not everything you say are definitely "facts" or not. And I'm sorry if I came off as rude when I said about your chances of getting into the chat room, but I do think that it's frankly certain that any poster who makes little more than GMs on the board are not going to convince the mods that they are trustworthy in chat, since GMs alone do not allow us to get to know you very well as a person.

this is an anonymous board, how much are you really going to trust someone?

When you see someone posting a variety of things and expressing their personality in numerous ways on the board over a reasonably long period of time, then you can get a good idea of what kind of person they are and be able to make a relatively accurate guess as to whether or not they are authentic. I have made several friends here over the past nine and a half years and so far all of them have been proven authentic in time. Making friends who will understand us and not judge us in a negative way for our attraction base is one of the reasons I--and many others--come here. It takes a lot of time to earn trust on a board like this, of course, but it can be done if people take the time to give the board the chance to know all aspects of their personality, and if they are consistent over time with the characteristics and interests they show. Trolls tend to be consistent on some things and very inconsistent on other things.

if this is the type of place where trolls can get close to people in real life by gaining there trust or impressing them with GM's and i was one of them then don't you think i'd not be acting the way i do? wouldn't i be trying to be a little more smooth? let me guess..."that's exactly what a troll woould say"

I guess that would depend on what you consider "smooth."

it's fucking pointless to even argue this shit dude, no one should ever give up their real identity here. period. it's not safe. and by you guys saying exactly how you can gain trust and access is a little counter productive.

Which is why I do not go into more explicit detail about how people can earn trust and give a strong indication that they are authentic or some of the red flags that unauthentic people commonly give off. The attributes I did mention are all rather common sense.

also, you say shenanigans has weeded out trolls....i'm just curious, what proof do you have that they actually were?

It's not incredibly difficult to weed out trolls. As I said before, they commonly leave certain patterns, and though not everyone who does these things turn out to be trolls, enough of them have left such markers behind to make the assessment rather obvious.

what is outrageous about my post? because so far i have read many posts on this thread that have verified that these things do happen (not that i needed to hear that because it happened to me, so obviously it does, it was just nice to hear it isn't so out of the ordinary).

As Dante also noted, these things DO happen but they DO NOT tend to happen on an extremely regular basis.

once again, your saying that you know people who when they post a GM it's the truth without a shadow of a doubt? what if they are just a really good troll? do you speak to or know them in real life? again, how do you know they're not just a really good troll? the answer is theres no way you can prove it with every one, you can only make an informed guess and trust your gut. well peoples guts have been wrong before....just like shenanigans when he said i was lying. i think you people are way too hysterical and i wouldn't doubt that while your bitching at people like me your rubbing elbows with a really good troll....wake the fuck up. do me a favor...prove your not a troll. exactly, you can't.

Educated guesses, especially when you have been in the community for a long time, are not totally useless or without merit. People here have made an educated guess that, after nine and a half years, I am very likely not a troll (or even a "very good one") because I have never exhibited any of the common characteristics of trolls in all that time. Trolls are by definition seekers of attention, and they usually give themselves away with this characteristic rather quickly. They are not the same thing as an infiltrator (though the latter group often tend to have noticable characteristics too).

again, i think your jealous because you don't have as many great GM's as myself or other people so you find it hard to believe anyone else could.

I usually do not have a lot of "good" GMs because I do not surround myself with lots of teen girls because, as I have said, it's NOT wise. That is a choice on my part and I am not jealous of people who take these chances so much as concerned about them. And as I also said, I do not define my self-worth solely on the basis of how many girls I have or do not have in my life at any given time.

are you implying that i routinely am alone with girls? because again if you weren't so ill informed you would realize i have never said i have been all alone in any of my GM posts...at times i'm in a room alone but there is never a time when there isn't someone else a room away. i think what you people don't realize is that, no one wants to read a long ass post with information that is essentially irrelevant.

I don't think such information is irrelvant in the least. In fact, I would argue strongly that in a world like this, and considering who routinely monitors this board, mentioning that you were not alone with the girls is a VERY important disclaimer to make.

like in my first post when said i was wrestling with 4 girls, what i didn't say (but did in my response to myself) that there were many other kids and adults coming in and out, and it was a family party. info that i really didn't want to say because it is details that can be used to identify me.

I don't think that simply mentioning you were at a party is an identifying and sensitive detail.

and you mentioned getting investigated, of course i wouldn't want that, but i have never spoke of breaking the law

My point was, you often mention situations that can cause antis or LEOs who may be monitoring the board to ASSUME you were breaking the law.

i am a very busy person and am frankly pretty self centered, that's why most of the time my only activity here is to brag about my GM's. it's like if you don't fit a certain mold you must be a troll....well once again, if there is such a strict mold for who is and who isn't then aren't we giving the enemy our trade secrets?

Appearing to have a one-track mind (even if this is NOT the case) is indeed a characteristic of a troll on MAA boards.

okay understood, but how do we know you aren't just a really good troll? how do we know that you aren't responsible for alot of the outings that happen? look, i understand respect is earned, but that doesn't mean outright ridicule, mockery and accusations should be in it's place until one earns that respect.

I already mentioned up above in this same post why everyone here is confident that I'm not a "very good troll." And not everyone here is assumed to be trolls and subject to accusations until they earn enough respect. That is the case only when someone appears to fit the pattern of trolls. For instance, posters like CatcherInTheRye, Agent X-Ray, and Sancho earned creds and respect relatively fast because they showed so many different sides to their personality during their early days on the board. This didn't guarantee they weren't trolls, of course, but it did go a long way towards dispelling any concerns people may have had regarding them.

not exactly sure what your saying here but again, you assume i have many lg's in my life, which is wrong, you only think that because you are once again being selective with the info you pay attention to. it's the holidays so obviously the level of family and friend interaction is heightened, hence so is the lg interaction. also, i started dating a girl with kids so that also helped my situation. you don't read everyone of my posts so why must assume you know more than you do?

I usually read your posts when you receive a good degree of attacks to see what all the fuss was about and to make my own assessment of what is being claimed by others. And many people here do follow your posts regularly, and I don't see them showing any great knowledge of the things you mentioned up above (such as you dating a woman with kids). In case you haven't noticed, since I do not regularly follow your posts, I tend to keep out of assessing your credibility.

i also don't base my happiness upon my interactions with girls in my age of attraction, i would be this happy without ever having them, but they are certainly icing on the cake. also, my point is in my experience whenever someone is trying to chop someone else down it's usually becasue they are not happy with their own life.

I'm not sure how routinely you happen to follow MY posts, but I do not spend a lot of time "chopping" other people. I have appreciated many GMs that have been posted before, including the ones that Sancho has posted about A and the ones posted by CatcherInTheRye about the "puppet show girl."

i appreciate your understanding, and do truly apologize for my name calling. obviously i was very frustrated.

Understood, and all is forgiven.









Dissident


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