Re: Parents and Peds - Complementary and Conflicting

Thanks for the explanations. I understand you better as a pessimist. And IMO you have a pretty good perception of the way things are. But no vision as the way they could be (explained by the pessimism).

My confusion comes from the way you say you don't expect things to get better but just don't want them to get worse. And then you hold out ideas that VP will make things better (for pedos, at least). Seems you have as much chance as pro-contacters (?) do; nearly none. If you're gonna dream (and I don't know why a pessimist would) dream BIG!

When I was a teen my best buddy and I were reading the same book (Siddhartha, I think) and I was a chapter or 2 ahead of him. He asked me what a word meant and I said I don't know. He put the book down and told me I could be completely misunderstanding the book by ignoring a word I didn't know.

That is the way I feel when you say,

I do not think there is any morally relevant reason why I am attracted to young girls. It just is.

How can you have any philosophy at all without first having a philosophy about that? Maybe an atheist doesn't need that as a first step, not needing a foundation to build on. Just for the record, I am God fearing but not Christian or any other social faith.

From my point of view, a celibate pedophile is totally unsellable to the general population and therefore even less acceptable to them than an out pedophile relative or friend that has otherwise earned trust and respect and might enter a mild sexual relationship with a kid if the kid wanted to.

My daughter has pointed out to me that the men in her daughter's life (family and close friends) are teaching her everyday how to love. That should include sexual preparation. The world could be a happier place.

This is not about fixing climate change or getting equal pay for women workers. This is about being accepted as a pedophile that has a function within society as a pedophile and not just about being broken with no way to be fixed.

I still can't come out to my friends or family and I certainly cannot have a sexual relationship with a child in my life. But maybe, if enough of us can earn enough respect and trust as human beings to feel we can come out and then, if we are accepted, we might even be given some slack if we transgress slightly or want to use pictures as an alternate instead of being stoned to death or worse. I am sick when I see people sent to prison and girls made to feel bad because of a kiss in the 'wrong' place or someone looking at pictures. I can't see VP ever earning a position in society to make a change in that. I need to have a moral reason why I am the way I am.