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Posted by jd420 on Monday, January 07 2019 at 4:59:28PM
In reply to According to Beavis & Butthead posted by Eeyore on Monday, January 07 2019 at 04:26:11AM

What's really, really interesting is that the two things suppressed at the end of the 2010s were naturism and children's liberation. It's truly a fascinating panoply of killed sites, all from around the same time.

This is also the date of the FreeCycle "delete everything, ban everyone" kerfluffle. That one died down, suggesting that gift economics is not the part of utopianism which threatens the rival group, but rather the notion that a better world is possible. It's amazing what folks will telegraph.

If your parents instilled you with boundaries, these later experiences might feel liberating. If your parents didn't do that, then your experience is probably a medley of free-for-all felonies.

This is a good thing, though. Familiar with Konkin's work on white/black/grey/red markets? Everything that does not currently have a police officer present is a temporary autonomous zone, each of them should be filled with as many open felonies as possible. Maximal open displays of lawlessness, no antisociality.

Of course, any natural antisocials will burn themselves out after a while. Unnatural ones, however, are common, such as the homeless-none-of-the-homeless-had-heard-of that entered the Occupy movement to rob people. Those were paid.

I dunno, man, just thinkin. I'm still in memory of the gracious elves, though some of this I can admit I've widely fallen out of touch with more recently.

What's astounding is how god-damn dug in they are, EVERYWHERE. I was visiting a government installation once, they pretty much did the "we know we're an environmental atrocity from another era, have a pedophile pride necklace" thing as a buyoff. It's really god-damn hard to visit anywhere without finding it's mostly a network of dug-in cells. A few places, but... it's one of the most successful and far-flung movements out there.

In any case, they're targeted by folks who take swings at us, so... more gingerbread housing.

My view is far from universalist, but I've grown to see the gatherings and the fairs as increasingly out of touch, and more reliant on trustafarian funding, while simultaneously ditching the solid peace and love ideals which originally drew me to the whole idea.

I mean, Burning Man is famous for that. OTOH, they're called temporary autonomous zones for a reason; anything that can be centralized can be corrupted.

The Rainbow gatherings basically got wiped out in the '90s, with 'official representatives' spending their time bitching about how some people are paedophiles and how important it is to hurt people who are different. This is hilarious to those who are familiar with its basic tenets (no official org, no right to exclude anyone), but it's a miracle it didn't come to gun violence. Then, it died the hell out.

Conversely, an mp3 player and some powered speakers, and anyone and everyone is a freiparty anywhere. Temporary and autonomous, not fixed and corruptable. :p

More militancy with lower historical understanding just seems to spell future disaster for any movement, no matter my support or sudden lack thereof.

You should see the online "left." It's a puddle of failsons.

They're not really prone to caring that the two major movements, the anarchomaoist wing and the comintern, are directly under attack. They're likely to help attack it. They'll do inordinate amounts of work to ensure resistance to anyone pointing this out, establishing which cartel most of these folks work for; they'll do an equal amount of work to suppress worker ownership or resident-owned communities. Frankly, most online fora are essentially counterinsurgency kill zones with no other purpouse.

This is basically accounted for; ignore the official, it's corrupt, and do for one's self. So no big.

There's a lot of sabotage... but on the bigger picture, there's a lot of telegraphing. The greatest fear is effectively one of evidence that a better world is possible, a spark in the imagination. We... can probably exploit that.

And we should. Just not using fixed forms which can rot.


jd420





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