Bunch of scarecrows and whatnot. Let's see.

No, it's also the opinion of quite a few Intactivists

Ad populum. Because people say it, it must be true. With that line of logic I could also say that, since the majority of people believe that we are child rapists, then we are. We both know that's not true.

It seems *YOU* are the one here down-playing the suffering of victims.

Please explain how.

And I argued with you about this in another place a couple days ago, and you didn't have much to say about the arguments I was putting forth there, either.

Sure. Bring up a chatlog that's lost in some server that nobody can access to read the "discussion". It will surely turn the tables to your favor.

Instead you were defending criminals such as Hillary, Oprah, and the Obamas, who frequently trample on the rights of males and their intelligence!

Scarecrow number 1. Let me let you in on a little secret... I'm not American. I couldn't give less of a shit about American politicians and celebrities. What I did call into question that night was your claim that the candidate you vote for is related to whether you're pro GM or not.

I will check later to see if you made any reply to my "Rape is not that big a deal!" post. I'd like to see what you have to say there.

Don't hold your breath. I thought I made it clear that I wouldn't "start discussing who's more of a victim".

The logic being that I, personally, can say with a straight-face that I'd rather take it in the hoo-hoo up to 10-12 times before I'd consent to having someone cut off the best part of my penis while conscious!

"I'd rather take it in the hoo-hoo up to 10-12 times before I'd consent to having someone cut off the best part of my penis while conscious!" huh...

That sounds a lot like it's your own personal opinion! :D

Are you trying to prove me wrong or are you trying to prove me right here?

Let me guess "FGM is worse than circumcision", right? So now WHO is comparing apples to oranges, erm?

Scarecrow number 2. Let me spell it out for you:

• I don't think GM is worse than rape


• I don't think rape is worse than GM


• I don't think FGM is worse than MGM


• I don't think MGM is worse than FGM

Also, did you just assume I'm a girl? That's cute. Yeah, I guess my nickname could give that impression, can't really blame you for that...

No, most rape victims remain in their pain because of #Feminism.

If you're saying that victims would "heal faster" if rape wasn't seen as the big crime that it is, then I could agree only to a certain extent. However, consider this now (I'm extrapolating simple points from what I've read on your posts):

• Rape is not that big of a deal and it's only made worse through society's hysteria


• Meanwhile, GM is pushed aside like it's not that big of a deal

Then, wouldn't pushing for recognition of GM being a big problem be detrimental to the victims? They would have to deal with the same pressure rape victims today feel, according to what you say.

Re-read my OP then.

Yes, GiL. Excellent point you're making. Now what?

All feminism today is extreme, and radical.

A lot of it, yes.

So tell me then... what are YOU, Nadine, doing to end this suffering of males and help make it illegal?

Rejoice, for I'll give you the answer you were looking for.

*drum roll*

I'm doing nothing. Sue me.

Now GiL, tell me... what are you doing about people dying of COVID-19? What are you doing about homeless people? What are you doing about poverty in third-world countries? What are you doing about child labor? What are you doing about climate change? What are you doing about everything that's wrong in the world?

I guess that means you either don't care about those issues or that your feelings about them aren't genuine and therefore your opinion shouldn't be taken into account.

(I'm only mimicking your logic here, I don't think you don't care about all that. I just hope you can see my point here)

By the sound of the demeanor your words give off, you are probably busy on FB crying "My body, my rights!" when it comes to the choice of a woman to murder her children or not, crying about "rape", and even a woman's "right" not to have her workplaces' temperature controlled according to "male standards". Meanwhile, hundreds of millions of little boys are being sexually assaulted with knives.

Scarecrow number 3. Nothing to add to this one really, that's just completely inaccurate about me.

And before you type anything more, let me save you the trouble -- I have done things to help end MGM (and maybe even FGM), and I plan on possibly doing more!

Congratulations.

To end thing's off: I don't have any problem with you personally, so don't believe for a moment that I hate you or something. I only have a problem with this rhetoric of yours that I've been reading for a while now. You're free to hate my guts if you want, but I'm not looking for enemies here. And if you felt attacked or something while you were in chat the other night, then I apologize. I can get pretty pissed off when talking about these topics. And you're still welcome at VoA, despite what you might think.