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A little bit "bad", a lot "largely unnecessary"

Posted by rainbowloom on Friday, September 27 2019 at 9:49:36PM
In reply to Okay! What's Your Great Proposal? posted by RedViolin on Friday, September 27 2019 at 8:36:32PM

How about if society just lets every predator have equal access to children?!

You don't know in advance who's going to be predatory about it and who's not. And there's no way of getting a feel for it except by observation of character. Why can't any predator circumvent the process of certification by just pretending to be a good person? How does the certification change anything and what does it really accomplish aside from appointing a 3rd party to sort out those with good intentions from the rest? And... why is that 3rd party better at the sorting than, say, collectively, an individual child, their parents/guardians, etc.? The point is, your... solution doesn't really do anything to eliminate any of the potential for abuse (which is going to exist no matter what); rather, it seems to end up removing accountability on the part of pedophiles who haven't been certified, while giving individuals who have predatory intent an extra avenue for conducting manipulation.

Your other problem is that people don't defer to 3rd parties to choose their intimate companions.

You should be acutely aware of that fact.

- "Mom, I've fallen for (23-year-old) Jimmy and we wanna date."

- "No, honey... he's too old for you, may I suggest 12-year-old Mikey instead?"

- (12-year-old Sara rolls her eyes in frustration.)

Versus:

- "Mom, I've fallen for (23-year-old) Jimmy and we wanna date."

- "No, honey... he's not certified, may I suggest 23-year-old Mikey instead?"

- (12-year-old Sara rolls her eyes in frustration.)

Like, you're not actually solving anything; just re-assigning the problem to a manufactured attribute as opposed to an organic one.

Maybe it's easier for Jimmy to get certified than to regress 11 years in age, but that still doesn't help determine whether or not he's a predator vs. a good boyfriend... because Jimmy the predator can just get certified, fuck her, then disappear.

If the certification is set up so that consequences for foul play are more immediate, severe, etc.... then I would ask, what constitutes foul play and what are the consequences? We'd still have the same problem.

Meanwhile, you're granting privileges not to the certified pedophiles... but to the actual predators running about whose actions are not given priority status because the child and presumably whomever watches them never bothered to choose someone with certification so too bad for them?

In other words, creating an "official costume" for pedophiles to wear in order to effectively signal their virtues to children and parents, aside from being a completely inorganic and thus a little silly, creates a world of new ways for evil ones to exploit broken systems to get what they want, others be damned, and I'm not sure who's going to go for that sort of inorganic "guarantee" over meeting and getting to personally know a given suitor.

And the "outcasts", maybe we should bend over backwards and make sure that they get first pick of the all the little girls; and then defend their "right" to do so!!

Um... I wouldn't want someone previously convicted of rape to be around children in practically ANY capacity.

Why don't you, in your infinite outrage, propose a solution that doesn't grant privileges to a specific group of pedophiles?!

Damn straight, I want to hear it!!!

There is no "solution" which doesn't privilege a few and disparage the many... but you really think selection of the privileged is ever going to be, or should be, an process we institutionalize rather than leaving it up to the ones who shoulder the weight of the decisions?

(Namely, the child and those concerned with his or her welfare?)

The "solution" is actually as simple as shifting the criteria for an acceptable relationship to what actually matters to the individuals in question rather than any arbitrary, state-enforced, propaganda-fueled idea of "normal" which overshadows most of our natural ways of rooting out and fending off bad actors.

~ Rainbow




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