"The sexual orientation exists, but sometimes so do the urges. Nothing that most people cannot control, but suggest that you are not influenced by your urges is a falsehood."

Suggesting that "urges" exist in any meaningful way is the falsehood.

Of course people can "control" them, because people are not compelled to act by magical mechanisms which exist outside of them or from some hidden self that only a Markaba can see.

This isn't to say that some aren't mentally ill, and act in violent and dangerous ways when the Devil whispers in their ear. But we don't use their conversations with Satan or God to make your argument that Satan and God are REAL in any meaningful way.

Urges are a false construct, and a very dangerous one at that. Deciding that we are all puppets who are only partially successful in resisting the pull of unseen forces leads individuals and entire cultures to locate their motives to act outside of themselves.

For Pedos, its the child who triggers these "urges." For Middle-Eastern males its the uncovered female head. While "urges" certainly appeals to you who views all sexuality as if it were rape and tries to conflate the rapist with everyone else, ultimately it is an excuse for bad actions at best. And at worst it is a pseudo-Freudian load of bunk that preys upon the mind of the outcast and threatens to destabilize those who should know well enough that desires and actions, fantasy and reality are not the same.

Lying to people about healthy urges is an old ploy used by religious zealots to try to control the masses by getting them to war with their own feelings and suppress them. It is a distraction from the very real techniques we all use everyday when we don't attack everyone who cuts in line or who ticks us off.

The whole notion depends on Freudian voodoo BS which presupposes that EVERYTHING is secretly about sex and it ALL comes from some "self" only accessible through an outside "expert" analyst. You, of course, have set yourself up as that expert who claims to see invisible forces that others cannot see in themselves despite greater familiarity.

Meanwhile neuroscience has never found any of these separate "selves" that Freud posited. There is no Id, no Superego.

And for those who actually care about the unconscious mind, they find that our choices may arise in other regions of the brain and are determined before the regions that think they deliberate have "chosen." But that this is true about the actions we take to butter toast as well as about any others. The "hidden" portions of the brain are no more driven by magical "urges" than any other better known part that we think of as "us."

Our real unconscious spends more time rationalizing meaningless accidents that have no great impact on our lives and filling in gaps in data. It is not some kewl fantasy nightmare about some EVIL hypnotist who hijacks our will and drives us to dangerous acts. ( BTW, even hypnosis doesn't work that way. )

Conspiracy cranks see the world as filled with the deluded and see themselves as the sole exception who can see the delusion for what it is. The real problem that most face isn't self-delusion that is invisible and unprovable. It isn't even the abuses perpetrated by the ordinary selfish folk who consciously choose to exploit others.

The real problems are faced by those who live in cultures where "urges" are an excuse that locates the source of actions harming others in the other people who are harmed. "Look what you made me do to you."

Whether its something as massive as rape-culture or the witchcraft crises. Or something as small as regular online outbursts from blamethrowers who feel "compelled against their will" to respond to a post or return to fora that they swore-off forever, the false cultural construct of "urges" is a poison that deincentivizes and undermines the sort of responsibility for our actions that civilized people owe each other.

You cannot command your feelings. And you shouldn't try to deny your fantasies and desires. But what happens when you decide to act is as much yours as the choice of which end of the toast you chose to start buttering from.

Dante