Very glad to have you back, Dante! And I noticed you've been using the spelling "moar" in place of "more", and you know how fascinating I find all of that, since I have been using your context-oriented spellings as well. When is the appropriate contextual use of "moar" over "more"? I want to make sure I use it correctly in the future.

The "creepy old man" is simply the result of the attractive girl's allure caching unwanted "fish" in the net.

Its not her fault. Is she supposed to hide beneath a burqua? Accept every suitor who indicates an interest?

I absolutely agree that it's not a young woman's fault if she is not attracted to older men, or members of any other demographic, for that matter. What upsets me is not her lack of attraction to older men, but with how socially acceptable it is to come out and openly deride older men for finding her attractive, as if it's somehow their "fault" they are attracted to her, i.e., as if it's indicative of a character flaw on their part for letting their attraction to younger women be known, even if not not for having the attraction in and of itself.

And even to get applauded by those around her for making those open statements that specifically mention the age factor, rather than just saying something like, "Grrr! I find it so frustrating and annoying when people I am not attracted to keep ogling me like that! Every time I bend over too!"

As you well know, I am not attracted to middle-aged women, and I find it very frustrating and disconcerting when they openly flirt with me or make overtures of that nature. I know it's not their fault, and in fact society has fully conditioned them to expect me to be open to their romantic overtures due to my age, and because I am not gay. So as soon as they find out I am not gay, they expect me to be "on the market" for them. But should they expect it simply because I am straight and my age?

On the other hand, I have been admonished for making pejorative remarks against older women flirting with me or making overtures. Not to their face, mind you, but simply in speech after the fact. I have been told I was wrong to say it in those words because, to quote one angry critique I received verbatim, "that is very mean and disempowering!"

I understand that it is mean and upsetting to older women, who may be dealing with a lot of emotional issues over the fear of losing their natural attractiveness as they get older. I can empathize, certainly, so I am in fact quite sympathetic. So these days I try to be considerate and not publicly deride them in openly insulting ways by saying things like, "I wish those hags would stop flirting with me!" I don't always succeed if I let frustration get the best of me, but when I fail to keep the mean-spirited comments in check, I am thoroughly admonished for it. Being mean is considered a character flaw, and I cannot say I disagree with that.

However, in contrast, younger women are not ordinarily taken to task for calling older men who look at them "creepy" or "dirty old men," or even for referring to men in general they find unattractive who flirt with them as "creepers." And these comments are not reserved for men who make overtly disrespectful or blatantly sexual comments to them; it is often used simply for men who may politely make overtures to them in any online environment, for instance. Women are applauded for uttering such cruel and mean-spirited remarks and making the extent of their lack of attraction to a guy because he's older, or fat, etc., known in explicit public fashion. And it's often accepted that such a guy deserves no less for having the temerity to make his attraction known to her in the first place.

Again, this is not the fault of women. It's the fault of our hypocritical society for coddling them in this fashion, and in turn for demonizing older men for finding younger women attractive and not just keeping it to themselves.

Not only that, but I have often seen it expressed loudly that older women have every right to be upset with me for not finding them attractive, and even making that fact known in a polite fashion. I have often been told what a character flaw it is to "only" find younger women attractive, and for my apparent lack of willingness to "give older women a chance." And I have often been told things like, "no younger woman would want you anyway, and it's disgusting to even think they would!"

So, with that assumption being made, it's a character flaw of mine to not try and "settle" for an older woman whom I could not find attractive in the way she would need me to if we had a romantic involvement? That not being found attractive by the demographic I find naturally attractive myself should somehow make me start finding those I am not naturally attracted to appealing in a way that is not just going through the motions?

Would "settling" for an older woman I am not attracted to in the way she needs me to be actually not a true example of being mean and unfair to her? It's not just about the unfairness factor to me. Her feelings most certainly should be considered, and expecting a guy who is not attracted to her to "settle" for her is most certainly not conducive to her happiness and self-esteem.

And isn't calling an older man out in that fashion mean and "disempowering"? In this day and age, an older woman would most likely be fully understanding and even sympathetic if I politely told her I wasn't interested in her because I was gay. She would likely even say, "Oh, my apologies. I didn't know. Sorry if I made you uncomfortable." But if she found out I wasn't interested because I am simply not attracted to females in her age group on any level? Then society tells her she is perfectly justified in feeling offended on a personal level, and to tell me how disgusted she is with me, and to make all kinds of mean-spirited and uncalled for assumptions about my personal character.

And isn't making those "Creepy old man" comments also offensive and condescending to younger women who may be mesophiles, i.e., naturally attracted to older people on all levels?

This is what has me so upset about the whole thing. Not for younger women who naturally do not find older men attractive, but for society making her feel it's perfectly fine to insult older men for finding her attractive, when the same would not be seen as ethically justified if she similarly insulted a gay man for not finding her attractive.

It's how dogmatic societal expectations often conflict with the natural diversity of need and desire that is common among humanity, which you pretty much touched on with the rest of your examples. We are expected to all want the same things in a relationship, at least for it to be considered legitimate and acceptable; yet, in actuality, humanity as a whole often do not find one specific type of relationship or preference to be fulfilling on a universal scale.