Re: No kidding?

How would you detect that a child had or had not undergone grooming?

Check their fur? ;)

How was it detected that Masha and the other victims had undergone grooming? What about grooming by agents of the State? A child manipulated for years, until she finally breaks and agrees she is a victim?

Is grooming necessary for a child to engage in sex-play with either another child or an adult?

Not necessarily no but I doubt they would want to film themselves doing so and for most CP it does appear that adults are the ones in control. Perhaps there is some CP strictly produced by kids - I wouldn't know.

Since we can't view the previously legal CP, the adult control assumption is dubious. Perhaps the children were exhibitionists?

The point is that if taking part in CP, in and of itself, is harmful, they should have been harmed. If the revictimization hypothesis is true, they should have suffered further harm from people viewing the images through decades.

So, why not study this group?

What could make you change your mind on this issue?

If other children were found, who denied their victimhood and claim they consented, would you accept their testimonies?

Sandi and Lily, models from Webeweb, both denied being victims.