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Re: Researching the mind of a pedophile

Posted by EthanEdwards on 2014-April-30 19:17:51 EDT, Wednesday
In reply to Re: Researching the mind of a pedophile posted by Dissident on 2014-April-30 11:29:04 EDT, Wednesday
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I think calling this Brett Milam a "researcher" is generous. If my modest internet research skills be true, he made the Dean's List in 2011. He's a student or recent graduate at Miami University in Ohio. Let's add to this what Luke Malone (author of the "This American Life" piece) has written in the Virped group: that as a student he had never heard of non-offending MAPs, a condition he views as common to most non-MAPs. Finding out that we exist was a revelation to both of these young men.

Whatever the merits of normalizing adult-child sexual activity (a subject you know we disagree on), I think what you are offering is akin to a graduate thesis in a subject where most people still haven't taken the high school course.

My speculation is that even most ordinary, open-minded folks think of pro-contact MAPs as evil and/or wackos. They/you hold a belief that to them is self-evidently false and self-serving. If we take the young men's statements literally, they don't think any of you even abstain. I know it's more complicated and that many of you have views that are guided by high moral principles; others at least abstain. But ordinary folks don't know that.

Realizing that pedophiles exist who don't seek to change laws is a revelation to them. Perhaps they find it more plausible that we at least abstain if we don't seek to change laws (though I realize there's no necessary relationship). A great many of the less open-minded think that Virtuous Pedophiles members are terrible people who abuse kids anyway, and our discussing ideas online and suggesting we don't need to hate ourselves is tantamount to condoning abuse.

For all I know you (Dissident) might agree with what I've written here (which is about what *is*, not what *ought to be*). But I think it's worth emphasizing. In evaluating how good a job these people are doing, we should evaluate them against the mainstream culture they are coming from.

most pro-choicers adhere very strictly to the laws despite how we feel about them out of principle, because we believe it's very unwise for all concerned on many levels to brazenly violate these laws.

You might be right. I'd certainly like to think you're right. But do you have any research to back this up? Is there anything beyond the posts that people make in forums like this one? Where they are in fact prohibited from expressing the opposite point of view if they held it?


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