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You think WE got it bad...
Posted by Gimwinkle on 2012-June-26 08:52:00 EDT, TuesdayIn Rome he was imprisoned for seven years during his lengthy trial, lastly in the Tower of Nona. Some important documents about the trial are lost, but others have been preserved, among them a summary of the proceedings that was rediscovered in 1940. The numerous charges against Bruno, based on some of his books as well as on witness accounts, included blasphemy, immoral conduct, and heresy in matters of dogmatic theology, and involved some of the basic doctrines of his philosophy and cosmology. Luigi Firpo lists these charges made against Bruno by the Roman Inquisition:
holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith and speaking against it and its ministers;
holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith about the Trinity, divinity of Christ, and Incarnation;
holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith pertaining to Jesus as Christ;
holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith regarding the virginity of Mary, mother of Jesus;
holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith about both Transubstantiation and Mass;
claiming the existence of a plurality of worlds and their eternity;
believing in metempsychosis and in the transmigration of the human soul into brutes, and;
dealing in magics and divination.
In these grim circumstances Bruno continued his Venetian defensive strategy, which consisted in bowing to the Church's dogmatic teachings, while trying to preserve the basis of his philosophy. In particular Bruno held firm to his belief in the plurality of worlds, although he was admonished to abandon it. His trial was overseen by the Inquisitor Cardinal Bellarmine, who demanded a full recantation, which Bruno eventually refused. On January 20th of 1600, Pope Clement VIII declared Bruno a heretic and the Inquisition issued a sentence of death. According to the correspondence of one Gaspar Schopp of Breslau, he is said to have made a threatening gesture towards his judges and to have replied:
"Maiori forsan cum timore sententiam in me fertis quam ego accipiam (Perhaps you pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than I receive it)."
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- If they still had the power to do it... - BB on 2012-June-27 02:45:09 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- On that note - Hierophant on 2012-June-27 06:30:27 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: You think WE got it bad... - apple on 2012-June-27 00:05:06 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- and some priests too - apple on 2012-June-27 00:07:18 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: You think WE got it bad... - qtns2di4 on 2012-June-26 23:08:12 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Yes, I do... - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-26 16:31:23 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 19)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-26 18:31:58 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 18)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Hieronymus on 2012-June-28 06:53:50 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- For the record - Trucker on 2012-June-27 08:58:20 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 12)
- Re: For the record - Hieronymus on 2012-June-28 07:01:04 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: For the record - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-28 08:25:31 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- sensually consensual - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-27 09:26:20 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 9)
- Oh, and one other thing worth pointing out - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-28 01:33:27 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Oh, and one other thing worth pointing out - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-28 08:27:32 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Free your mind and yourself - Trucker on 2012-June-27 15:49:33 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Free your mind and yourself - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-27 17:22:34 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: sensually consensual - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-27 11:19:39 EDT, Wednesday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: sensually consensual - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-27 16:53:45 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: sensually consensual - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-28 01:24:44 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Well said (nt)! - Trucker on 2012-June-27 15:32:45 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Thanks-NMT - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-28 01:25:48 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: sensually consensual - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-27 16:53:45 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Oh, and one other thing worth pointing out - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-28 01:33:27 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: For the record - Hieronymus on 2012-June-28 07:01:04 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-26 21:05:28 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-27 05:30:26 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Joey Bishop on 2012-June-27 11:29:07 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-27 05:30:26 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Good chance you are on a state hit list. - Hierophant on 2012-June-26 20:11:49 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Yes, I do... - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-26 18:31:58 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 18)
- It's not just the church - LGL40 on 2012-June-26 13:24:58 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: It's not just the church - perfectrealitylover on 2012-June-26 23:29:17 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: It's not just the church - LGL40 on 2012-June-26 13:28:45 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: It's not just the church - Gimwinkle on 2012-June-26 16:21:38 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- We got ourselves a new slogan - Trucker on 2012-June-26 11:30:16 EDT, Tuesday - (0 / 0 / 0)