GirlChat #726184
Lies and bigotry
Posted by Hajduk on 2018-August-17 02:49:38 EDT, Friday
In reply to (1) recusal, and (2) great harm/benefit ratio posted by EthanEdwards on 2018-August-16 11:18:37 EDT, Thursday
If I used your standard of (1) about gay and trans issues, banning gays and trans from arguing for their pro positions, then I'd be immediately considered (rightly so) a homophobe, even by people who are lukewarm or moderately against the pro sides on gay and trans issues.
(2) is a complete lie, and that's exactly why most of us consider you dishonest. The consequences of prohibition are never just that someone didn't do X (if laws even stopped X, which time after time and example after example have proven false, btw) -- they include police abuse, judicial abuse, deviation of valuable societal resources into prohibition, corruption, and extortion (also from civilians and lawyers, not just police). Misreading is neither inherent nor exclusive to pedophiles or even to sex: it happens to all sorts of people of all ages and orientations, in all sorts of different interactions. Same goes for regrets: I regret many things in my own life myself, where sex (or lgs) have nothing to do with it. And in the particular case of sex, where physical evidence is inherently hidden and is inevitably destroyed in days after the act, false accusations are a much, much bigger problem than defenses based on alleging consent. Indeed the bar for rape is low, at least in the Anglosphere.
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Responses
- you won't even grant me "misguided"? - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-17 11:19:50 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 35)
- Alcohol is illegal in many Muslim countries - Hajduk on 2018-August-17 22:19:02 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- A few problems here - Dissident on 2018-August-17 19:49:22 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 33)
- solutions to alleged problems - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-17 20:37:28 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 32)
- More than just "alleged", fam Part 1 - Dissident on 2018-August-17 22:30:18 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 31)
- also, Ethan, - hieronymus on 2018-August-19 02:12:08 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- More than just "alleged", fam Part 2 - Dissident on 2018-August-18 00:14:04 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 26)
- just alleged - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-18 08:46:39 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 25)
- The "perfectibility" fallacy - Dissident on 2018-August-19 03:24:15 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- low probability underlies everything - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 11:33:30 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Democracy is key, not alarmist assumptions - Dissident on 2018-August-20 02:01:50 EDT, Monday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- low probability underlies everything - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 11:33:30 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- there is always a fly in the ointment - hieronymus on 2018-August-19 02:15:34 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Nothing - Hajduk on 2018-August-18 22:05:01 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Reality, logic and language - manbot on 2018-August-18 13:13:59 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 19)
- the truth will out -- if it is the truth - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-18 13:42:40 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 18)
- Ethan, - hieronymus on 2018-August-19 02:17:51 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Truth? - manbot on 2018-August-18 18:16:35 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 13)
- Ethan's beef is not with unfalsifiable claims... - Dissident on 2018-August-19 04:06:32 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 12)
- free pass only on lack of consent, not activity - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 11:52:42 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- Girls spending their lives in court - billi on 2018-August-19 12:27:34 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- back to the big picture - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 12:38:44 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- Justin Bieber - billi on 2018-August-19 16:15:43 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- That's not the way it goes. - rainbowloom on 2018-August-19 16:29:30 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Oh, for Gawd's sake! - billi on 2018-August-19 17:19:48 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Dickwad. [Nt.] - rainbowloom on 2018-August-19 18:46:20 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Oh, for Gawd's sake! - billi on 2018-August-19 17:19:48 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- That's not the way it goes. - rainbowloom on 2018-August-19 16:29:30 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Justin Bieber - billi on 2018-August-19 16:15:43 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- back to the big picture - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 12:38:44 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- Girls spending their lives in court - billi on 2018-August-19 12:27:34 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- I didn't know Ethan was a meat producer! - Sexiest GLer of All Time on 2018-August-19 09:55:09 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- I'll give you my meat . . . - Lateralus on 2018-September-07 17:30:44 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Mostly bologna -nt- - Baldy on 2018-August-20 02:16:59 EDT, Monday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Mortadella...nt - hieronymus on 2018-August-23 00:12:53 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- and shrimp (nt) - hieronymus on 2018-August-25 18:41:31 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Mortadella...nt - hieronymus on 2018-August-23 00:12:53 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- free pass only on lack of consent, not activity - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 11:52:42 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- Ethan's beef is not with unfalsifiable claims... - Dissident on 2018-August-19 04:06:32 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 12)
- misunderstanding shame, misunderstanding girls - Baldur on 2018-August-18 15:10:42 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- sexy YouTube videos? - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 12:49:53 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Lack of availability, for one. - rainbowloom on 2018-August-19 14:42:31 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- sexy YouTube videos? - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-19 12:49:53 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- the truth will out -- if it is the truth - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-18 13:42:40 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 18)
- The "perfectibility" fallacy - Dissident on 2018-August-19 03:24:15 EDT, Sunday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- just alleged - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-18 08:46:39 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 25)
- the straw man of denying youths the right to vote - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-17 23:01:32 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- More than just "alleged", fam Part 1 - Dissident on 2018-August-17 22:30:18 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 31)
- solutions to alleged problems - EthanEdwards on 2018-August-17 20:37:28 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 32)