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Feminazism, Masculinism, ...

Posted by Baldur on 2012-May-19 00:35:46 EDT, Saturday
In reply to Feminism posted by redcocoa101 on 2012-May-18 05:22:26 EDT, Friday
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And now for my serious post...

I think the board has addressed this issue often, and has come to the same conclusions you have - so please don't give undue weight to an occasional reference to "feminism" that doesn't spell out the history of the word, which most of us take for granted. The "feminazi" term has been around for two decades or more, to describe the difference between members of the misandristic matriarchy and egalitarians, but I prefer to differentiate between original and modern feminism. I have pointed out several times that in my view the man-haters calling themselves "feminist" are really more "masculinist", at least insofar as the qualities they value in themselves (anger, stubbornness, bombast) are traditionally associated with males in our culture.

Speaking of cultures - it does get a little tricky trying to present feminism across cultures: British and American culture have been pretty strongly pro-female for at least two hundred years, something that has long been noted by foreign visitors. The German army, in preparation for an invasion of England that never came, even prepared guidebooks for their soldiers that informed them that English women were used to and expected an extreme degree of deference and respect. There are many cultures where females do not get much respect, but the Anglo-American example - thanks to modern feminism doing egalitarianism a disservice - can now be held up as an example to the men in those countries as to why they should never grant women equality.

But the fact is, the goals of traditional feminism have been accomplished in the West. Pretty much everyone born after 1960 is a feminist (or rather, an egalitarian) in the sense that they want women to have pretty much all the same rights and responsibilities as men. This is well entrenched now: in the U.S.A., 60% of college graduates now are women.

So that leaves us with the misandrists, calling themselves feminists and giving feminism a bad name. As Dante has noted, they pretty much own the word now. If egalitarian women want to take the word back it's not something men can do for them. To their credit, a few women are attempting to do so, as when Sarah Palin claimed to be a feminist - and was rebuffed by the feminist establishment for not adhering to their anti-man, anti-feminine doctrine. The fact that a female governor running for the 2nd highest office in the United States can be ridiculed by the feminist establishment for not really being a feminist ought to be rather telling as to what that establishment has become.



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