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Fundie, but unaffiliated. Calvinist (?)
Posted by Hajduk on 2018-January-24 22:25:59 EST, Wednesday
In reply to Religious Views posted by ChibiSmurf on 2018-January-22 19:00:16 EST, Monday
Certainty requires God.
If there was no God, reality would be disorderly and unpredictable. Objects would fall up instead of down whimsically. Water would boil and freeze nobody knows when or how.
It's also funny to me how all of the answers of Atheists mention God endorsing the commission of immoral acts. If there is no God, how can you call an act immoral? Why is genocide, rape or slavery wrong? If there is no morality, genocide, rape and slavery just are, and cannot be wrong or right. Right and wrong just don't exist.
Morality requires God. If there is no God, no acts are better or worse than other acts. All are just acts.
I'm unaffiliated because there is no reason to suppose any one single religion contains the majority of the truth. It would be, actually, very much at odds with the limitations of human intellect if any one were.
On the other hand, most religions seem to contain an inordinate portion of essential truths which cannot be explained away. Revelation is "too true" to just be arbitrary and a matter of taste.
Theologically, I agree with the principles and tenets of Calvinism; such as predestination, the fallen character of human nature and salvation by Grace. But I'm theologically diverse because, again, it would seem impossible for any one religion to arrive at the majority of the truth. I coincide greatly with parts of Shiite Islam, Shaivite Hinduism (but also with Vedic Orthodoxy), Theravada Buddhism, small Christian movements ancient (Montanism), historic (medieval heresies) and modern (Christian Science, Children of God), small new religions (Raelians, Thelema), and Pagan traditions (Kurdish, Hellenic). I even regard ad hoc religions (Pastafarianism, Kopimi) and fictional religions (Jedi and Sith, Lovecraft cults) as equally true to "real" religions, in the same way that Esperanto, Tolkien Elvish and Klingon are as real languages as English, Chinese, Haitian Creole or Etruscan. Even my Christianity is heterodox, because I'm a modern Docetist: I deny the historical existence of Jesus, without denying the divine inspiration of the NT.
So, I'm unaffiliated; reluctant to fully affiliate anywhere, but also a little reluctant to fully disavow any religion in whole.
At the same time, I'm very, very religious.
I don't see any contradiction between these two stances.
But, if you wanted a short answer, I'm a Calvinist. Who forms a one man church.
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Responses
- re: theocentrism - summerdays on 2018-March-13 16:09:00 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 8)
- I've been over this already - Hajduk on 2018-March-15 15:53:34 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- All that said... - Hajduk on 2018-March-15 21:43:13 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- God's "word" - luvme2times on 2018-March-13 17:18:06 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Principles of Communication - Hajduk on 2018-March-15 14:11:49 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- well said ... - Baldur on 2018-March-20 22:30:02 EDT, Tuesday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- well - luvme2times on 2018-March-16 01:28:54 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- the answers are there - Hajduk on 2018-March-16 14:06:40 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- the language of God - luvme2times on 2018-March-17 10:32:41 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- the answers are there - Hajduk on 2018-March-16 14:06:40 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Principles of Communication - Hajduk on 2018-March-15 14:11:49 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- I've been over this already - Hajduk on 2018-March-15 15:53:34 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Further notes on the mind of God - Hajduk on 2018-January-27 00:43:03 EST, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Misunderstandings. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-24 23:25:40 EST, Wednesday - (1 / 0 / 39)
- That's postmodernism, not religion - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 02:03:34 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Both of these images - balto on 2018-January-25 11:05:14 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Never mind: - balto on 2018-January-25 19:16:36 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- (@ GL_in_Lyrics) [nt] - balto on 2018-January-25 19:18:22 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Never mind: - balto on 2018-January-25 19:16:36 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Both of these images - balto on 2018-January-25 11:05:14 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- And remember... - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-24 23:31:34 EST, Wednesday - (1 / 0 / 34)
- The Copernican principle doesn't apply here - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 02:13:11 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 33)
- My Confusion... - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 02:48:36 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 32)
- White guy with a beard made of straw. - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 14:17:15 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- NOT just a white guy with a beard. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 15:46:59 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Unthinkability doesn't mean inexistence - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 21:45:17 EST, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- there is one good reason for the bad smell - hieronymus on 2018-January-25 21:41:42 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Still made of straw though - balto on 2018-January-25 18:05:37 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- NOT just a white guy with a beard. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 15:46:59 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Inserting my opinion - balto on 2018-January-25 11:46:05 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 26)
- And as for "spiritual glue"... - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 15:33:41 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 18)
- Look around you! - balto on 2018-January-25 15:56:23 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 17)
- Seriously? - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 18:19:45 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 16)
- And meanwhile: - balto on 2018-January-25 18:56:28 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Completely unnecessary - balto on 2018-January-25 18:37:01 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Fixed baltics - balto on 2018-January-25 18:49:40 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- You tell me, apparently. Haha. - balto on 2018-January-25 18:25:04 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 12)
- Yes, I take life seriously. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 18:27:44 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 11)
- And... - Hajduk on 2018-January-26 00:24:59 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 9)
- I'm done here. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-26 00:59:20 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 8)
- Temples are ivory towers too. - Hajduk on 2018-January-26 02:45:22 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- I don't know who you're quoting - balto on 2018-January-26 02:18:10 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 6)
- My part of the "debate" is OVER - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-26 02:42:29 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Excuse me? - balto on 2018-January-26 15:27:55 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Softly now ... - Baldur on 2018-January-26 17:08:37 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Also ... - Baldur on 2018-January-26 17:10:20 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- True. [nt] - rainbowloom on 2018-January-26 23:42:26 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- To be fair - rainbowloom on 2018-January-27 00:45:19 EST, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- True. [nt] - rainbowloom on 2018-January-26 23:42:26 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Also ... - Baldur on 2018-January-26 17:10:20 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Softly now ... - Baldur on 2018-January-26 17:08:37 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Excuse me? - balto on 2018-January-26 15:27:55 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- My part of the "debate" is OVER - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-26 02:42:29 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- I'm done here. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-26 00:59:20 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 8)
- Plenty of atheists out there doing the same - balto on 2018-January-25 18:39:59 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- And... - Hajduk on 2018-January-26 00:24:59 EST, Friday - (1 / 0 / 9)
- Yes, I take life seriously. - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 18:27:44 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 11)
- Seriously? - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 18:19:45 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 16)
- Look around you! - balto on 2018-January-25 15:56:23 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 17)
- Burden of proof on the one making accusation - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 12:26:16 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 6)
- You don't act faithless. - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 16:15:44 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Not preaching, but preaching - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 18:10:22 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Reply - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 21:19:56 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- God definitely exists. - balto on 2018-January-25 18:17:50 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- *rainbowloom claps* - balto on 2018-January-25 17:06:33 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Not preaching, but preaching - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 18:10:22 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- No accusation was made - balto on 2018-January-25 15:51:11 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- You don't act faithless. - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 16:15:44 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- And as for "spiritual glue"... - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 15:33:41 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 18)
- White guy with a beard made of straw. - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 14:17:15 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- My Confusion... - GL_in_lyrics on 2018-January-25 02:48:36 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 32)
- The Copernican principle doesn't apply here - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 02:13:11 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 33)
- That's postmodernism, not religion - Hajduk on 2018-January-25 02:03:34 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- I should add... - Hajduk on 2018-January-24 22:55:30 EST, Wednesday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- secular religions and false gods - Baldur on 2018-January-25 03:13:49 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- True fuckin saye. [nt] - balto on 2018-January-25 16:00:28 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- secular religions and false gods - Baldur on 2018-January-25 03:13:49 EST, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)